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Olympic Medal Madness

August 27, 2024 DadMode

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What makes the Olympics so captivating, and how do nations truly measure victory? Join Bearded, Nova, and Morph as they explore the fascinating world of Olympic medal counts, from the U.S.'s obsession with total medals to other countries prioritizing golds. Hear about the awe-inspiring achievements of athletes from the smallest nations and the quirky sports that have graced the Olympic stage. From a 58-year-old ping pong debutant to a 14-year-old skateboarding prodigy, this episode is packed with extraordinary stories of triumph and dedication.

Ever wondered about the more unusual events in Olympic history? We reveal the surprising past of painting and sculpture competitions and the bizarre inclusion of pistol dueling. Our excitement for future Olympics in Los Angeles and Brisbane is palpable, but so is our frustration with modern Olympic coverage. We discuss the challenges of following the games without traditional TV and the stark financial contrasts between commentators and Olympians. Despite these hurdles, we celebrate the love and commitment athletes bring to their sports.

Gender pay disparities in sports remain a hot topic, and we dive deep into the contrasts between the NBA and WNBA, as well as the FIFA World Cup, examining revenue and compensation differences. Cricket and rugby may be prominent globally, but they remain relatively obscure in the U.S. We wrap up with our unique take on balancing Olympic enthusiasm with our responsibilities as dads, promising more engaging discussions on fatherhood and modern life in future episodes. Tune in for an episode that combines sports, history, and heartfelt reflections.

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Josh aka Moorph
I'm a US-based husband and father of two boys. I work full-time and have been a content creator since 2000. I'm a YouTube partner, Twitch and LiveSpace streamer who founded a content creation coaching company called Elev8d Media Group (elev8d.media). I'm a blogger, streamer, podcaster, and video-er(?).

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Speaker 1:

Turning off normal human male mode. Switching to dad mode. Welcome in to dad mode With your hosts Bearded, Nova and Morph.

Speaker 2:

But we're actually bringing it back to Olympics. Olympics are half my first. It's been very interesting this year, the Olympics I'm fighting. There's lots of things I didn't know. One of them was how America does the medal cap compared to every other country in the world. I didn't know that was different. Doesn't surprise me.

Speaker 3:

They usually do well, but this year they seem to do exceptionally well.

Speaker 2:

No, no, no, it's the, the olympic committee and majority I think. I think it's like the whole world out the medals as golds and if there's buying gold, you use silver to break up. Who's got, so you go. You know you could have two people on 20 gold medals, but then one's got 10 silver and the other one's got 20 silver, so the one with 20 silver is actually ahead because they've got. You know, it's basically tier breaking up and and that's how the olympic committee counts gold, like ranks every the teams. So when you look in the press across the world over the the thing, america might be third or fourth in the list because they were slow to get their golds at the start. They waited till the track events came. But if you looked at america reporting the whole time, they're at number one because they had a whole lot of bronzes. So they were counting the total medals, not just the gold medals.

Speaker 3:

We see total. Yes, we see total I never knew that four or five days ago we had 88 and china was closest, next close to like 61, yeah, uh, and then like they're like, yeah, and they might have more gold, but whatever, we have a lot someone someone pointed that out this ago said we have a feeling that america changed their way many years ago because china was beating them in gold, so then they just went.

Speaker 3:

Well, we can't be less than china, so we'll just count total, total it's just, it's not even fair for companies like for these, like, uh, us and china, because they have so many people who you know, gigantic, you know contingents of athletes over there and like, um, saint lucia, like I think they won, they won, I don't know what track, track they got a gold, but that was the first middle ever.

Speaker 2:

It's same with the dominican republic got a gold, but that was the first medal ever. It's the same with the Dominican Republic got a gold, and their population's less than St Lucia, I think, they're only like 74,000. So when you look at the population, the gold medal thing, they're just worlds ahead of everyone else because it's such a small yeah it's crazy.

Speaker 2:

One of the highlights I saw was, just like a lot of older athletes there and I want to say it was Brazil, but I could be wrong, south America, I just don't know if it was a South American country A woman was debuting for the Olympics at age 58, for ping pong At age 58? I'm like that's awesome, like that is, that is unreal, that that actually happened. You know, you got that the turkish shooter like look at him, he was so casual.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, you know, I saw. I saw a lot of funny memes about that, like people couldn't believe that america didn't finish first in that category.

Speaker 3:

I think that's the memes where a lot of there's a lot of post office staff members that could have gone, instead of something um, so I was just typing in google because I was thinking there's some weird sports that are in olympics, like curling in the winter, and so I typed in google weirdest and it automatically filled in olympic sports because I think everybody's looking at it. So here's some of the some of sports that have been in the. They're not always in here, but Tug of War existed from 1900 to 1920.

Speaker 2:

Yes, that would have been cool.

Speaker 3:

This one blows my mind. I don't get it Solo, synchronized, synchronized. Who are you synchronizing? Yeah, okay, okay, okay. Life-saving that lasted Okay. Oof Ski ballet I'm watching a little gif of it. That's weird. They're on skis. That sounds dangerous. Hot air ballooning lasted one year.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, there's a lot of sports that only last one year. Like breaking this year is only Breaking is this year only what is that Break dancing?

Speaker 2:

her breaking is this year. What is that break dancing? Why? Why? Why is? Why? Is that in there? I don't know, but you have to google the australian woman. I just saw it on tiktok today. I'm gonna, I'm gonna watch the highlights after this of it, but apparently her break dancing is hilarious. It's, it's, yeah, really bad, really bad.

Speaker 2:

I was actually only finishing the women's park skateboarding. Oh, jumping onto this, we have our youngest ever gold medalist. He won the women's park event and 14. Wow, it's really interesting Skateboarding in the Olympics. Since it started in tokyo and this year the women obviously don't have massive. Yeah, it's been predominantly a male sport, so many women got in. There have been some great women skateboarders over the years, but they don't have the bank like men's do. So when you go to the olympics, that the age category for the women is like 14 to 17. It's like the oldest you'll see. But then when you go to the men's, it's shifted up to like 38 as a top end, down to like 24. Yep, it's just awesome to hear a young 14-year-old winning gold 14 year old winning gold.

Speaker 3:

So I, I think the us women uh, four by 400 relay, yeah, and the anchor was like the 17 year old girl and it's just like my kid is almost 13 and he, uh, he doesn't listen to this. Okay, my kid is almost 13 and he just learned how to tie and this this woman is four years older than him and ran an anchor leg in the olympics and won gold. Yeah, what? Yeah, yeah, yeah, so, um, so yeah, breaking talking about new olympics.

Speaker 2:

Did you see that we're getting a esports olympic?

Speaker 3:

no, yes. So I play games. We're not athletes.

Speaker 2:

It's not in his event, not as an event. Okay, the IOC actually approved. This was before Paris started, I think Saudi Arabia's hosting it for 2025. So you'll have your normal Olympics, your Paralympics and then your Eastport Olympics. They're actually going to split it off to be. You know what that looks like, you know, but you know what that looks like, you know, but you know it's a step. Who knows what that could be? You got to think that the digital simulated racing is a big thing. You know Gran Turismo. There's massive money in Gran Turismo, to the point that they, you know, use that to progress, to actually racing cars.

Speaker 3:

Heineken do a simulated racing. The alcoholic beverage company yeah, they do. Sponsors a driving event, yeah, even virtual. Yeah, okay, yeah, right, just make yeah like it's.

Speaker 2:

I think it's virtual free or something like that. But yeah, I'm interested to see what an esports olympics is. Where do you go with that?

Speaker 3:

call me elitist, but any sport where you can hold a beer and drink it while you're doing said sport, it's not really a sport like it's um. Did you know that for 36 years, painting and sculpture was no 1912 to 19?

Speaker 2:

wow, that's probably because all the equipment got destroyed in world war. Thought they had left was brushes uh, this one's not surprising.

Speaker 3:

This lasted one year old, uh, pistol dueling that someone got gold. Someone did. When was that? That was 1908 and 1908. Only, okay, 2008.

Speaker 2:

Wow, who's that? Next Olympics is LA, yeah, yep, and then one after that is actually Wartown. Is it really yeah?

Speaker 3:

32 is, so was that 32. So 24, yeah, yeah, yeah so I'm gonna I'm gonna. I want to try to get to the olympics in 2032 over well, my wife and I I says I already did it.

Speaker 2:

I said you gotta put your name down to try and get some tickets, like I don't know how that I know how I don't know how that works, type of thing, but but I was like, you know, we've got to put that in and see what that looks like, I guess. But apparently it's a lottery for locals. Locals get more because obviously you're not paying for accommodation, I think they leave so many tickets open to the public Further, and then there's a limited amount for local residents which they'll raffle out, basically, and they go. Okay, cool, yeah.

Speaker 3:

I think one of my favorite parts about watching Olympics is like I'm lying in bed. I got a beer bag of chips, my belly's hanging out watch the TV and I'm like I know there's a lot more of you out there that can relate to that than are willing to admit it, but yeah, I don't think we should be saying so, it's interesting because we watched like the olympics at home and my wife and I watched totally before.

Speaker 2:

So my wife's well into equestrian you'll watch all the equestria events and loves doing that. I'll watch it with her. But at the same time I'm like cool, when's this going to end so we can switch it over to the next? I'm interested in a whole lot of other different things. To be honest, the coverage this year has been horrible on the air end, has it? I hate it. I keep forgetting that I could watch it through nbc, I think posting over your side. Yeah, I keep forgetting that I've got peacock and I should probably fire up peacock and watch. I remember that story. Yeah, I keep forgetting. I should just fire up that and probably watch your coverage better. But here, change of network doing it. Just, they have this. This is like an old man gripe here. Free to air channel a lot of the free to air channels. I have their own.

Speaker 2:

They're tied into a streaming platform, I guess yeah yeah, kind of like nbc and peacock or amazon, you know. Anyway, they have the free-to-air digital thing. Do your streaming catch-ups, that stuff. That's the thing that's absolutely horrible. However, they do have a streaming platform that you can pay 20 a month to get on, which is okay, right. But if you pay an extra 10 to that, then you get their Olympic coverage on there. Apparently, the Olympic coverage is way better on their paid service than it is on the arena. Yeah, and it really grinds my gears.

Speaker 2:

It really grinds my gears because the Tokyo Olympics was done by a different channel, in Australia, and they did a great job. It was great. And when I was like cool, I can't wait because you just jump on, find the sport, do the highlights you know different, polymerase whatever. It was taking forever to appear on this one this year it might not show up for a day or two after the event happened and you don't. It was just horrible. It's just horrible. That's why I'm catching up like I'm slow, to watch the events we're waiting.

Speaker 3:

This year's been the hardest for me because I got rid of regular tv so I watch all the events as replays, all right, so that's been making it a little bit more challenging, but so I I haven't watched any of the bmx stuff like I focus a lot on. Like uh, track and field events in basketball is like my favorite thing, because I can always say, like I used to do that, not like that.

Speaker 2:

I I find, yeah, I haven't watched any of the traditional sports like basketball, rugby union, soccer. I haven't watched any of any of them. Actually, like the big time frame, I guess it's the best way to put it, I've stayed low on it. But, yeah, I get, I get, I get you about cutting back. We can't get. There's nothing on you for us. Third party yeah, I wish I actually want to go watch all the snoop dogg and kevin hart stuff. We don't get that. Why don't we pay some weird people to cover?

Speaker 3:

it.

Speaker 1:

Apparently he's making insane money.

Speaker 2:

I heard rumors of up to it was something like 400 pounds a day that Snoop Dogg's getting paid, plus expenses Wow, plus expenses if he needs expenses, jesus, with a potential to be over 1,200, potential to be over a 12 million pound for the whole coverage, to just be more than any Olympian getting paid. They make like 100 or 200 grand at the tops right.

Speaker 3:

A lot of.

Speaker 2:

Olympians, do it for free, I can look this up A lot of Olympians don't get paid. How much do?

Speaker 3:

Olympians make.

Speaker 2:

A lot of Olympians make money through endorsements. If they're good enough, yeah, like it's.

Speaker 3:

It's a love for the us. Gold medalists earn 38 000, silver medalists 23 000 and bronze medalists 15 000. Yeah, imagine being best, the best at something out of every any human on the planet, and they're only like here's 38,000.

Speaker 2:

But it changes there's a couple of countries that are paying insanely well for their gold medalists, that countries don't that rarely get a gold medal. They'll pay them the same money because obviously they've just highlighted the country on them.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I mean right, that said, people that are olympians, like you said. They're sponsored full-time to train and do other events. So they they. Yeah, they may not win a ton of money for the medals, but they're fine, they're doing fine some some.

Speaker 2:

I know a british athlete he lives not far from us and I think I want to say she does discus and and shop it some, or javelin, like it's. It's a track, a field event and, yeah, she has to pay her own way. A lot of athletes pay unless you're really good at what you do and you're bringing a lot. You know, like your michael phelps, your ian forbes, like your big, big swimmers, you know that they, they get paid money obviously, but yeah you move down to say, like ping pong athletes and stuff, they're not, they're not, they're totally different.

Speaker 2:

It's it's sadly much like women's sport to men's sport when it comes to like the wmba and the nba, you know. I mean, it's what brings in, what brings in the eyes and what brings in the money. That's how you get paid.

Speaker 3:

I'll touch on that in a second. I just found a list of the top 10, 15, 20 countries and what they pay out for gold. Hong Kong pays $768,000 for a gold medal. The lowest on this list no offense is Australia. They pay out $13,000 for gold.

Speaker 2:

Oh really.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, singapore pays $745,000. Indonesia pays $300,000. Israel pays $371,000. Yeah, $13,000.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, china's not even on it, so they're below $13,000. But anyway, the women's sports thing is is interesting soccer, the I know us women's soccer team has always complained about the pay difference, um, which was always kind of bs because they did draw as many people as the men's. Oh, really, wnba and nba yeah, the wnba and the nba vastly different. They don't bring in any people. In the wnba they're like well, why did this guy make this and we only make? Because you can only pay what the league brings in. Yeah, it's, it's. I don't think it's that complicated and I know it sounds like it's a gender disparity, but if you want to earn more, you have to get more people to watch.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah actually it was interesting to to highlight, I guess, that how it works, the world cup, women's world cup last year, soccer, they always.

Speaker 2:

I think the prize pool went up like $100 million between the two years because it got so much more attention, which obviously FIFA are going to be making way more money. So it was, it was an actual jump. You actually saw the women get actually paid a decent amount for competing in the World Cup, and it showed because we're making more money out of you guys, we're going to pay you guys more money. They didn't shove their hands in their pocket, and when you look crazily enough though and I don't want to sound sexist in any way, but if you look at the percentage of what women's athletes get paid to, how much the sport makes, that percentage is actually way higher than the men's, because I believe when you look at the world cup in men's, you know women it's something like six percent or something, or what they're making moves back to women, and then, when it comes to men, it's back to single like way less in an odd way, trying to look for the n and the wnba.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, so, um, so, oh, okay, so, all right. So here is a disparity between the nba, wmba uh, this is from, I don't know what this is from. In the nba, players receive 50 of nba basketball related. In the wnba players receive 10 of basketball related. What was that? Make 50% of all money that comes into the league. The men the NBA players get 50%. Women the WNBA players only earn 10% of the money coming into the league. That is. But I think some of that has to do with the fact that there's a base amount of things that have to be set up to run the league. You know what I mean. So like when the league yeah, you know what I mean. So like when the league, the nwmba, just the nba has to sign a contract for like 76 billion over 11 years, of which I think the nwmba gets like two or three billion of that, and that's gonna like skyrocket salaries, you know.

Speaker 2:

So it's like yeah, all right, I found, I found the one I was looking for. It's great. You just said that you know, 50% of revenue for men, 10% for women. Women's World Cup get paid 20% of total revenue. Okay, okay, and you know, let's put that into a thing the Women's World Cup generated $163 million. I think it was Okay. Yep, the men's get paid seven percent, but their revenue generates six billion. Oh, wow, it is a. It is a gender pay gap.

Speaker 2:

But when you're looking at as a business model, on revenue, on revenue, yeah, which one do you want to be? If you're a business, you want to be making six. I want huge revenue with lower, low costings. Underneath. On my players, I'm profiting. Could you imagine how much those players would be making if they were getting males were getting a 20 revenue cut? That is insane money in six billion. Six billion, all right. It's the biggest sport in the world. It's funny when you think about some of the. You know the biggest events in the world. You have fifa world cup, then you've got the olympics. The other one, cricket, is one like. There's all these events, but majority of them are not american-based sports yeah, so we don't ever know about them.

Speaker 3:

Like cricket is huge. Like I work, the industry I work in, I tend to work with a lot of people from india. Oh yeah, you and they're always talking about, they're always talking about cricket. I'm like, how does that even work? Do they look at me like I'm crazy? Because it's like it's, it's the sport over there.

Speaker 2:

It's the sport. It's the sport. We know about indian cricket a lot because we're australian, we play cricket. You know it's a commonwealth sport. I guess the best way to put it comes from from off. Why isn't that cricket?

Speaker 3:

and if you tell me this, I feel really bad. I think it has been, I think it has been in the in the past.

Speaker 2:

I, I swear I have never even seen. Yeah, I swear it wasn't the past. Cricket returns it. Here we go. Cricket returns to the olympics at 28 oh there you go.

Speaker 3:

I wonder why the us do have likea yeah, it didn't make an appearance in paris.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 3:

You got to figure. If it's going to be olympics, you, the us, might actually put a team together, right?

Speaker 2:

yeah, they do. Us does have, does have cricket, just like u. Us has a rugby rugby union team and rugby league team rugby was.

Speaker 3:

I watched the rugby rugby's. I don't want to ever play it, but it's a lot of it's fun yeah that's not a good one either.

Speaker 2:

Like unions are right, I like league more. So there's. There's two types of rugby's rugby union, rugby league, the one you would see all the time is rugby union. Rugby league, I find is a lot more faster and harder. Oh, yeah, yeah, we actually. We actually had a few games played out of las vegas at the start of the year. First few rounds, the first first round or second round or something. A couple of the teams or four to vegas and they all played in vegas for a bit so yeah, there is a united states national cricket team.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I, yeah no one knows about them.

Speaker 3:

No, it is. I literally have not heard of this in my entire life.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's like soccer soccer really wasn't a thing, it's. David becker came over to america and joined the galaxy, you know, I mean then and even now it's still kind of quiet, still quiet, quiet, yeah. But I mean, when he came over, that was kind of what made that whole splash over in the us got summertime. Yeah, was that?

Speaker 3:

like when a popular club in europe doesn't win the world cup or something Like, the country is devastated. Right when the U S men's and women don't win the world cup, everyone's like, okay, um, what was I doing? Yeah, yeah, it's weird.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, no, no, we it was. The women's world cup for soccer was massive for us Cause our, our women's team actually did quite well. They got to the quarterfinals, so it was every so often yeah, all right.

Speaker 3:

So the I'm looking at the medal count, by the way, because you mentioned this earlier. Yeah, what matt? What's important is the total. That's really what we're um, you know, I mean, but if you look at the gold, sure, china and us are tied at 33, but us has got 111 total. So well shit, we're ranked three good on us was russia a lot, a lot in the no, no, russia hasn't been.

Speaker 2:

Russia hasn't been in for a lot. They're still out. How long were they banned, do you remember? I don't know, but they're also with. Oh, there's another. There's another country, belarus is also banned yeah, I mean has got 11 medals.

Speaker 3:

When? Where do they when and where do they get time to practice? I mean, who knows?

Speaker 2:

who knows that? You know that shot put their shot put. Champion is probably the best granite grenadier canceled. Probably probably.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, russia got it really they were gonna compete shooting uh events, but they didn't have any bullets.

Speaker 2:

Yeah yeah, russia, russia really got banned because they got confused when they said set up a javelin event it's been a great life that's been great um more to the un. Yeah, this is our best night, our best, best games, I think I think our record was 17 gold though do you see this guy, um, from the us.

Speaker 3:

He won a goal two days ago in a bronze today and he had after he won the bronze. He really couldn't breathe. They had to pull him off the track and he won a bronze medal in a track event with. I'm surprised he was leaving everybody at home when you're just like I can't go to work for four weeks. This dude ran in the olympics and won a medal with covid I'm surprised he was allowed out with covid.

Speaker 3:

He apparently was wearing a mask. Okay, then he goes I didn't know, I had it. Yes, you did. You probably get tested all the fucking time. Yeah, you do your event, I get it. I get it.

Speaker 2:

I get it. It would have sucked to miss out on it.

Speaker 3:

You seem a little irresponsible to your fellow athletes.

Speaker 2:

It does seem highly irresponsible. That's that point that I'm looking at. That seems a bit selfish, but okay. But no, a lot of Russian athletes are allowed to appear on ROC. What's ROC? That's Independent Republican Refugees. Oh, I don't. There's two Olympic teams on the Olympics. It's. I think it's, yeah, a Republic refugee Olympic, something like that. But there's a couple of teams where, if your country can't compete, they felt like it was, they weren't going to let them at all. No, russians were allowed to, but then they felt it was a horrible idea to ban athletes purely because of the country. I guess you know what I mean. It's unfair to crack down on an individual for a nation. That's why they're allowed and they come under. I think it's the ref. There's two teams where, if you don't have a team, you can compete just so yeah, which is it's?

Speaker 3:

it's. You were talking about the medals per capita. Yeah, earlier. Yeah, the us is winning roughly one medal for 3.5 million citizens. Australia is winning one medal for every 570 000 citizens look up india.

Speaker 2:

I think india is on that list uh, I don't.

Speaker 3:

It's not showing me a whole list.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, no, probably wouldn't, but they, you know their populations way more and a medal per uh last year. So the band I'm just trying to look into, the russian man, yeah they're winning one medal per 6.2 million.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, oh sorry, I didn't scroll that. Sorry. They're winning one medal per 281 million.

Speaker 2:

Yeah the russia's ban was lifted to be after tokyo, like 2022, but then they got rebanned because of the on, because of ukraine. Oh, wow, yeah, it's the russia's being banned for its fourth consecutive olympic games through summer and to winter. Uh, I don't think. Anyone, I don't know. I thought they always added some words to some events.

Speaker 3:

I'm just trying to serve some controversy on the podcast.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they do, they qualify, they can still compete going through this. No, it doesn't say when they're unbanned. Probably there'd be a period after the war with Ukraine. Yeah, but that makes you. I get it. You get Russia's ban for Ukraine. Why is there nothing around the Middle East With Palestine and that Just put it out there. Yeah, palestine and Israel. Yeah, they've always been in war, but they're the Olympics. That is when you think about it.

Speaker 2:

That's weird, with the lead up and then the lead up and after, like during, it's still been going on, like I know. Yeah, we don't hear too much about the ukraine war like we did when it started. It's very much there, a lot less than what it was, and we're all about palestine, israel, at moment, but we are hearing all about that there in the Olympics.

Speaker 3:

That's crazy. I bet people didn't know when they tuned into the dad mode this week that you would be getting our Olympic coverage. You're welcome, yeah.

Speaker 2:

We probably wrapped that up.

Speaker 3:

I think the next time we talk more non-Olympic coverage, I hope you.

Speaker 1:

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