The Art of Juggling: Making a Career out of Streaming, Gaming, and More

Ever dreamt of turning your passion for gaming into a full-time career? We're here to take you backstage, busting myths and shedding light on the challenges that lie in the path of making it big in the world of streaming. We're exploring the less-trodden paths, where the rise of online platforms could potentially influence sports and celebrity culture. Not just that, we're urging you to build an arsenal of skills beyond gaming, such as video editing, social media management, and audio engineering. This is about preparing the younger generation for careers of the future.

The conversation doesn't end there. We're diving into the complexities of balancing work, family, and content creation. There's no sugarcoating here; we're talking about the importance of multiple income sources if you're venturing into full-time streaming, and we're bringing you valuable insights from our guest who has managed to brilliantly balance his work-from-home job with podcasting. We're also contemplating the idea of exploring content creation post-retirement. If you thought juggling work and hobby was an act, we're here to show you the entire circus.

Now let's get personal! We're sharing our experiences with VR gaming and how it has transformed our relationships with our children. We're opening up about the unique challenges and benefits of being a parent in this ever-evolving world of virtual reality gaming. It's not just about streaming and gaming, it's about navigating friendships in this age of streaming, transitioning between mentorship and peer roles, and the toll of maintaining a professional persona. So join us for a candid, insightful, and honest conversation on these realities.

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:00

Oh shoot, sorry about that. Can you hear that? Yeah, what the hell's that? That's my AI cat. I'm sorry, I just started talking, my bad.

Speaker 2: 0:12

You've got now a cat.

Speaker 1: 0:14

Yeah.

Speaker 3: 0:16

Well, guess what guess? What just became a clip.

Speaker 1: 0:19

Chat. Gpt is connected to a AI cat that I named me. I was be. I came when I was playing Um straight and it became a thing in my stream and the cat yells out meow, bitch. And it really escalated into something crazy. And now the cat is sarcastic and ends every sentence with meow.

Speaker 3: 0:37

Please tell me that happens on your work, oh.

Speaker 1: 0:40

No, cuz I my my work desk and my podcast is actually over here. I should have took this from over there. So I have another desk that's set up to kind of do this type of stuff that I haven't really started doing yet.

Speaker 2: 0:53

Mmm, it's a great. Um, it's a great space, I'll say that.

Speaker 3: 0:57

So we're both enjoying this space, kind of tying together a little bit of that last question and something the answer a minute ago. Um, I Agree, we do have a, as, as you get old, you have a lot more to offer because you've experienced it. And, yeah, having money allows you to do a little bit more. But the money part is exactly what I try to impress on most of the people that come into my stream to listen to me or listen to my podcast or whatever is. While I do think there are things you can do in gaming and streaming to make some money, 99.9% of the time it's not a career. I'm sorry, but it is not a career. You're not going to make a sustainable living right off of it. You have to go to school. I made a tick-tock once that said, um, I Was like, yeah, I finally found a way to make six figures and as a streamer and gamer, I'm like I get it, I got a job. I went to school and I got a job, you know, and I got a lot of hate for that because they thought I was about to express you know, give them the secrets of how to unlock money. I'm like you don't, you can't. No, I'll say you can't when it's only like point one percent? Sure you can't. Like you said, you have just as much.

Speaker 3: 2:15

If you start streaming at 16, which puts you in high school, you have just as much a chance of becoming Pro on your high school, back from your high school basketball team, as you do becoming ninja level rich. Just as much chance. In fact, I'd argue there's even less. Because how many Streamers and gamers get promoted to the general public? Pokemon, ninja, the end, right, like we know, people like Ludwig or people like like Nobody else does outside this space? No, but you can have a basketball player that might be on the bench in the NBA and he's known everywhere.

Speaker 3: 2:55

Like it's such a small, isolated Industry and I think people forget because they get so caught up and I think I'm gonna be huge. I'm like that's not huge. Most partners still have full-time jobs. It just doesn't pay. The best thing you can do I don't know why I'm yelling the best thing you can do when you want to get to this is like Get into video editing, get into social media management, get into audio engineering, get into graphic design. The peripheral skills that we pick up. Those are good and there wasn't a question apparently.

Speaker 2: 3:29

I just yeah, I'm yelling, I know, but she is rant. Yes, but Okay, we say the things have changed over time. The kids nowadays are more into that online, watching the live, into live streamers, gaming, youtube, etc. Who's to say when it comes to their kids? You know, this is a total space where those sports actually start dying off. You know the physical sports and the celebrity surgeon of it. Eventually it's gonna shift, I reckon, and it will.

Speaker 1: 4:07

Yeah, it might pivot more towards this Tech yeah, you I To kind of just touch on what you said more I think there are some, some harsh realities that You're willing to offer people, right, and only the people with the open mind, and sometimes just older folks, are willing to hear, like yo, that that that made a lot of sense. I gotta, I gotta have a job in order to do this shit, because it's I'm never gonna make enough through Just streaming alone, right, and I think it's it's through meeting you and bearded and a few other people out there were Kind of elevated. My way of thinking it's like okay, this isn't gonna cut it right, you need to start thinking about Sponsorships, brand deals, posts and stuff on other things.

Speaker 1: 4:56

Coaching mentor, anything that you can do, where you can make and and create some other income outside of streaming. And streaming is the place when you advertise, where you talk, where you just have fun and shoot the shit. This isn't the moneymaker, this isn't gonna blow you up, right? But people, a lot of folks, just Younger minded and not to like, talk about the younger folks that they they're just refused that, that level of information at this time.

Speaker 3: 5:25

Sorry, okay, bro, I Don't know that I was any different when I was younger, because you see something in and your limited life experience Everything's telling you this is the truth. But when older people tell you I don't think it's so much that you don't always believe them, but they're not telling you what you want to hear, the same way that I don't tell people what they want to hear, and so like I'm going to discount it because it's not convenient.

Speaker 1: 5:53

It was it was pretty funny a younger guy in my stream in his 20s. He said Uh, can I ask you a question? And he mentioned something about. He put respectfully, because I'm a, I seem like an elder and I was like I don't care how many, how many parentheses you put around it, I'm still offended. But I'll answer your question, band and but the. The response I gave him was one that I never took myself, which was listen to your parents and it's. It's really basic, but your parents have that experience to kind of help guide you. And same things.

Speaker 1: 6:28

The older streamers older folks, mentors, people that have been in business a long time they tell you these things and you're like I, he don't know what you're talking about. I'm gonna be the best streamer ever. I'm gonna be the best content crit. No, you won't. No, you won't stop. Maybe you should look at other things that are out there. It's like take advice from the people that have gone through this and and can help you save a little bit of Time and stress and energy. And I'm not saying to pursue this, I'm just saying pursue it differently and and yeah, I With the other day.

Speaker 2: 7:02

The reality of like myself. I've changed jobs again. I've changed. In two weeks time I've got another significant pay increase. That's the reality of it is. This is more of a hobby for me now there's the better I get at my career. I'm not Like some of the other people that have gone Okay, I can do this full-time.

Speaker 2: 7:22

Only need 500 subs a month or something like. No, that's that's. You know, way out the reality. I can't. I've got family. Yeah, I've got kids. Yeah, I got a wife. Yeah, responsibilities. You know I can't. I can't do the cool stuff. I gotta make my meals. You know, seven nights a week and you know we go out as a rare occasion. That's. You know, a special thing I, yeah, I kind of reads my dinners in and live by myself. You know I'm smoking weed and streaming all the time or something like that. That's not me. I can't. I can't do that, but I'm it's. It's a different level for everyone and it's that responsibility behind them on Whether it is something that they can replace or whether it's not. Like I'd love to do it. I'd love to be this full-time.

Speaker 3: 8:14

Great because it's it's fun and it's creative. I think the one downside, as you're older, is you have real-life Responsibilities now, right, you're not Working at a job where you can quit here and go work at the place next door, because it's not a career. Yet Once you have a career, once you have a family, you know your. Your priorities have to change and you need to do things that are gonna can give you that that consistent financial security Right versus you know something, transit transactional and I think that that's if, like if I was in my 20s and I was interested in this stuff, I would absolutely try to get myself into a content house because it sounds like so much fun and I could embrace it, because I had no life responsibilities when I was younger. Yeah, you know, but it changes when you're, when you're older, and you have to think about those things.

Speaker 2: 9:10

I Actually look forward to doing more content creation in 20, 20 years time, like that retirement age, to be honest. Hmm, because I actually feel like as much of you are tiring and old and pissed off more than what I am now.

Speaker 2: 9:29

The Responsibilities of work we'd less and less, especially once I retire, like I think it's something I actually would still pursue, probably pursue harder in retirement because I can Do that. By then most of my children would be all my children be moved out that that there'd be adults. They're all doing their own thing, like it's becoming a teenager again. Basically about an older age and this a lot of older streamers in that category that have actually picked up as older They've got because they don't have that responsibility anymore. They can have fun. They don't need to worry about their income anymore. They've done what they needed to for life To to get to the stage where they can retire.

Speaker 3: 10:13

Yeah, so changing it just a little bit. So where'd my note go? So you've been doing this for a few years and I know you do. You at least you were doing some podcast stuff on the side too with Lou, right? How do you balance all of that with being somebody that works from home most of the time? With babysitting, I mean parenting your kids?

Speaker 1: 10:48

Number one. So my health is most important, right. So I try to work out or run or something. I have to do something. I rest, my mind goes crazy and then work, and then family and every streaming or content creation.

Speaker 1: 11:03

None of it happens unless my family is taking care of to a certain degree, right. There's sometimes where you know my wife will be like, okay, I'll take the kids to practice if you have a stream this particular night, or something like that. But I usually plan any type of content around my life. My family comes first and then all other stuff happens. And so just schedule and communication with my wife like, hey, tonight I have this podcast with you. And she's like, okay, well, our son has to go to football practice. She's like, okay, I'll try to get off work a little bit earlier so that I can take him, versus you take him on Friday.

Speaker 1: 11:37

And so I've been shifting my schedule, changing it, maneuvering it, moving things, and one of the most important things that I've been trying to build and establish is I don't want a notification to tell you when I'm going live. I don't want a Twitter post, I don't want anything at this. I just want you to know West is supposed to be live around Saturday at 9am. Okay, let me pull up, it's 9.30. I think he's supposed to be on. I know he's on between this and I want that. And so I've been struggling really hard to be as consistent and as on time as possible and that's only through my wife's support and my kids being okay with it. And then me still going to every game, every parent teaching conference, still trying to work out and do stuff around the house, and it's been going pretty good so far. But I know there's areas where I could get a little bit better. I've slipped a little bit this year, but every day is a new day to get better and try again.

Speaker 3: 12:32

Yeah, like with anything else, support is really going to make or break. You. Beard and I have talked in the past that neither one of us have a ton of support in our household for streaming and podcasting, which makes it challenging because there's no comfort at home for the struggles you're dealing with or whatever, so that makes it challenging. But when you have that, that's that actual little push you need when you're going through a rough patch or something like that.

Speaker 2: 13:07

Yeah, I was just. I brought up with past gains last night because he was talking about feeling bad for taking a little bit of time off or doing something like that. And he's got a newborn coming here, that he's wife's pregnant. They're having another baby next year and I laughed at him. I said, mate, you're worried about it now. You wait till there's a newborn.

Speaker 2: 13:31

Like I said, I can tell you right now, I planned on having a month off streaming. When I had a month off streaming, it's now four. Like it's rare now to four months. Since I've been on, my average is one zero. But at the same time I maybe realized last night I technically probably could come back to it a little bit more. But deep down inside I'm having the best sleep I've ever had since having the break. Like my sleep pattern has increased. I'm sleeping more generally for the night and more consistent sleep and I think part of me doesn't want to give that up again either. Like the midnight. So cool, I can go to sleep at nine, 10 o'clock. Nowadays I don't have to worry about editing my YouTube videos and doing you know, my 30 ticktocks for the month, 60 ticktocks, 90 ticktocks for the month that I used to do Like a lot of that stress is done.

Speaker 2: 14:24

Like you know, every answer me wants to be back, because that's also, at the same time, my only ability to game. So I don't game anymore, anything like that. You know that's. That's, I guess, in a mental way, punishing on myself because I actually really want to, but I can't make that time back up like I used to, right, but, yeah, it's a balance, like trying to, I can't. I can't balance it anymore. I've lost. I've lost all balance. We've talked about balance so many times and consistency and yeah, I Can't commit anymore like I used to.

Speaker 3: 14:56

Yeah, I got into this because I like gaming and I was convinced it'd be fun to stream that. When I get into it I stopped gaming. Right, I was only. I only had time to do stuff on stream and a lot of times that wasn't gaming. And and since I've taken a bit of a slowdown right down to like one day a week or so I'm gaming a lot more and I'm loving the hell out of it again, like have you, because I know you game a lot on stream. Do you still feel that same love you had with gaming Now versus before you got into this? You still have the same time to do it.

Speaker 1: 15:37

I have an even Founder love and appreciation of gaming because of the community. So, like one, when you met me to where I'm at now, I think how I stream and how I thought about it changed right. So at one point I was like, alright, every week I'm gonna get together and I'm gonna talk about which news and inform people, and I had a lot of streamers coming by and I was like, alright, seasons changed, I'm gonna get rid of that. And I started having more open topics and conversations with people. So in my stream, every stream for about an hour and 30 minutes to maybe two hours, sometimes I'll do a just chatting and I'll talk about random topics music, aliens, sometimes streamer stuff, sometimes just whatever comes to, whatever I come up with or our research that day or the night before and I plan to talk about. And then my community Consistently tells me about new games. Hey, try this out. I think this is a good game. I think this would be fun for you. Check this out. Things that I would never play. I was playing visage on stream.

Speaker 3: 16:34

Scary game.

Speaker 1: 16:36

They make me turn off the lights. I have a jump scare. I have a heart rate on me. Every time my heart rate drops below 65 I get an automatic jump scare from myself and I'm having a time of my life.

Speaker 1: 16:46

But I appreciate games a lot more because now my friends are telling me about cool shit that I would have never touched before streaming. I only played first person shooters and I played destiny for like seven years. Because of streaming, I played Hogwarts, I played Pokemon, I played visage, I played spider-man. I'm playing shit that I've I would never touch. And oh, it's to the community and people kind of saying hey, west, this might be fun for you, I think you might like this. And so when I stream is when I play games, but also my friends are. The community has been so good about getting me back into story-based games. I've never I haven't played single-player story-based games in so long and I was like what the hell was that thinking? And For me I'm having like the opposite right, so chatting and then jump into some fun story-based game and have a ball doing it.

Speaker 3: 17:39

That's awesome Get to VR.

Speaker 2: 17:42

A bit talking about VR. That made him get into the PlayStation VR and we've spoken a few times About that and he's like I really love VR. Didn't think I would like. I'm happy I got this. Might you wait to?

Speaker 2: 17:53

start like it's. It adds another venture before this or some of them. I'm sitting there on straight on steam going through looking at VR titles. I'm like cool, I need that something different. What's it gonna be? I did.

Speaker 2: 18:07

I did find you know there's a little bit side topic. I found a VR thing for emulation and nostalgia. That is a game. It's free. It Put you in a room of the 90s with CR TVs and you got to plug your console in, like it. You put your legally-owned ROMs Into it and then you plug your console into the TV, you plug your cartridge in and then you pick up the controller and it's. That's all it is. It's a nostalgia hit of how to play emulated games, but in a 90s environment I'm scared to. I've installed it. I'm scared to load it because I feel like that's just gonna consume me for a while. Be like oh, I'm done. See your family, I'm off time. Walk back to the 90s now no one can talk to me again. But I wouldn't, but I wouldn't come across it. It Outside of streaming and being in this space before like pushing into those new boundaries.

Speaker 1: 18:57

It's great we don't we don't talk about VR in this house.

Speaker 3: 19:02

No.

Speaker 1: 19:03

No cuz. My kids are maniacs here out there fucking fighting over VR. Right now they have one Oculus surprise, I got them the new one for Christmas but they don't know it because they are monsters and they fight each other over this single VR heads it every single day. My son has a Xbox, a brand new computer, but he wants to play the Oculus. They want to play gorilla tag man after VR. It's ruining my life, my patience, I can't do it anymore.

Speaker 3: 19:30

I literally want to break it. I Don't know how you do a bearded, but so West has two kids. I have two kids, and I know I can't buy one thing. I have to buy two because they'll just bite over it. Brutus, you have what? 36?

Speaker 2: 19:48

Encountering.

Speaker 1: 19:50

How do you?

Speaker 3: 19:51

I don't know you do that, I don't know how like, hopefully their interests are different, yeah that's enough, the most of my the two Middle girls.

Speaker 2: 20:02

They're just kind of cross-pass for a while, so you kind of would double on up on things. My son is really the only one that's really hard into the gaming content space. So you go into his room, you know you got a breath of the wild bow up on the wall with you know he's got all the gamer cool stuff in his room as well. There's this cool desk that I'm actually jealous of in a way, but I know my setup wouldn't fit on it. The other girls not interested into that, but they were happy with just iPads kind of thing.

Speaker 4: 20:33

And then one of the one of the daughters.

Speaker 2: 20:36

She plays a little bit of PC games, but it seems like she's not adventurous into the space of gaming. It's I've kind of got lucky there where my son's been ever like. I've only had one, one child that really wants All that. They've got their own interests, I guess.

Speaker 3: 20:54

Mm-hmm, do your. So I know your. You said your older son is he's many times better than you at gaming. I think that's how you put it. Something to that effect he's off, he's off stream.

Speaker 2: 21:08

Every time Wes was. Wes just on stream. He's actually off camera playing the gameplay, so Does your younger, your younger kid play?

Speaker 1: 21:21

My daughter. She's getting into games. She plays a lot of Roblox right now. I did a Kirby stream with her Last year. We beat Kirby when she was younger. Her like fine motor skills are getting better. She just got into fortnight I don't want to say this week when the OG maps came back. So we have like Four or five Xbox consoles because you remember they were sold as media centers, right. So I have them plugged in wherever I have a TV in the house to to act as a media center. So like the direct TV is plugged into it and you have to turn on Xbox. So she has the ability to kind of play different games. So yeah, she's getting into games. I'd like to bring her back into stream one day to do some more fun stuff with me, but last year she was after one hour She'd get really antsy and irritated. But she's also a gamer too, so that's cool, we'll see.

Speaker 3: 22:13

I get antsy after about an hour and stream, so I understand it's a long. It's a long time to be sitting there and talk, like I don't usually talk to a lot of people a bunch before I streamed and now we're talking for two hours, three hours. It's like what. What is going on here?

Speaker 1: 22:29

Yeah, I don't talk at all throughout the day.

Speaker 3: 22:33

That's right. So you work from home full-time right.

Speaker 1: 22:36

Yeah, but even when my family's home like my wife talks more, my kids talk more I don't talk. I don't get to talk. So when I'm on stream, that's when I do all my talkie talkies, because I don't get to talk later on.

Speaker 2: 22:47

This is right, yeah, yeah, this is it for tonight. I used to say the streaming was my social interaction. Mm-hmm, yeah, that was some of the majority of my same interaction.

Speaker 3: 22:59

Yeah it it is. This is something I think that bearded I talked about before too is you know, I Didn't. I don't hang out with a lot of people for my job, and a lot of friends that I grew up with have moved away and doing whatever. So, like I have a lot more Friends through. I've met through streaming, then I have definitely that. I have IRL and my wife finds that bizarre, but it's like but these are the people that I interact with a lot more than anyone outside of here, because I'm home taking care of the kids or I'm at work. Yeah right, I don't know how's that gone for you, or do you still have a balance between the two? I Don't.

Speaker 1: 23:43

I don't like spending time with friends outside the house. I was a Wild man, you know. It's like the quiet guy is the one I like to party and drinks on me. I'm let's buy out the bar, we're gonna have a great time, and so it's like I got kids at home and my kids are at or upset when I'm gone, so I try not to go out. Right now there's a friend that I met while playing games and he's in town and he wants to go out tonight, so he might go have ramen.

Speaker 1: 24:12

So, this was interesting that you brought up, like meeting people or spending time with folks. I still have a good balance of friends, but I don't really see them. I'll talk to them, I'll message them, I'll check on them, but a lot of my new friends are coming from the streaming space and people that I I'm able to connect with really quick because we have this common interest. And then you dig a little bit deeper but like, oh yeah, these things are the same. So my streaming friends are starting to grow past my outside friends.

Speaker 2: 24:40

I've been similar to Andrew. That was that. That was me, I thought. It's maybe a handful of times a year that I actually catch up with the friends that I've had for the last 30 years or so of my life, that I've known since high school. Because life gets in the way I guess everyone, everyone moves, everyone, everyone does thing is. It's not, as you know, you're only catching up for weddings or special events, but I find it more In conversation With my streaming friends and my online friends and my creator friends. That's. That's probably who I have the more interaction We've on a on a daily or weekly basis nowadays.

Speaker 3: 25:20

Mm-hmm, it's not bad, but yeah, what doesn't get it, yeah yeah, yep, I think I find it strange a little bit too. You know, as you're growing up and you know friends start slipping off and you're focusing on working and raising a family, all that stuff, like you sort of just accept you know that world you're in, so like I Didn't know you that I wanted a community or a community it sounds so pretentious. Honestly, I didn't know that I wanted more friends to talk to, but it's been awesome meeting people like yourself and bearded and Nug and lots of so many other people. It's been great getting to know people and feeling like you're plugged back into things a little bit and enjoying the experiences.

Speaker 1: 26:15

Well, I have a question for you Absolutely Going from where you were as someone that's providing a lot of information and coaching and now kind of taking a step back where you're just enjoying games, do you feel like you've gone more from a mentor to a peer, or do you still feel like people are coming to you and that you know when someone's a mentor versus a peer, when they're asking you for advice and they're kind of afraid to just open up and be themselves with you because they're? I don't want this mentor of mine to look down on me and so you. I don't know if you've ever felt that like awkwardness from people, and has it changed since you kind of taken a step back now?

Speaker 3: 27:00

That's a great question and I want to say no. By the time people got, by the time I got to a point where people knew who I was, it was always a mentor-mentee relationship with most people. And this year, 2023, as I've gone from here to there, to here to there, to here to there, I've still kind of kept around that same niche when I was trying to be more visible, and so it didn't change. Now that I've really taken a step back, even though I'm still streaming right and I'm still doing podcasts, I'm purposely not putting myself into a position to where I'm as visible and but when I have interactions, it's a lot of people from the past like I say past, I mean like four months ago are still treating it that way.

Speaker 3: 27:49

But I'm trying to go on and just act like a peer. You know what I mean. But I'll be honest whenever I get asked anything related to anything that would be a life advice or streaming life advice, whatever you want to call it I can't help but slip right back into educating, because it's just who I am. So I think that my personality kind of keeps it at a certain way, but I don't. It's a lot of pressure, because nothing feels fully genuine, because they're trying to show you, like you said, they're their best self. And I'm trying to be professional to an extent, but I just want to be like, fuck it, let's just go get a drink. You know what I mean.

Speaker 3: 28:31

But it's like you say that to my employees at work. Like there's a lot of work, I mean I would love to hang out with you but you're my employee and I can't do that. Yeah Right, you know, Okay yeah not, that's fair. But if you want to get a drink at M West, I would love it. No, Um.

Speaker 2: 28:53

SwitchCon, wherever that is.

Speaker 1: 28:55

SwitchCon Me yeah, we had just went to Hawaii, like in July, august, august timeframe or something, and I was like I am not going on another trip with you, mofos, that was enough. And my wife was like, oh, you can still go, but you got to take us respectfully, I want to stay out and do whatever networking thing that I need to do and I don't need you, right.

Speaker 4: 29:22

How come?

Speaker 1: 29:22

you didn't come spend the time with us. I can't do that. Why don't you?

Speaker 2: 29:25

introduce us to your friend. I can't do that.

Speaker 1: 29:28

And I would have loved to go on to kind of network with some of the folks and businesses and things like that. But I had to say no because we just went on a trip and I wasn't going to do it again with my family so close. I'm exhausted. I don't know what I said publicly when I didn't decided not to go.

Speaker 3: 29:46

I feel like I made something up. The truth of the matter is I didn't want to go anymore. Like I hit a point where I'm like I don't, I didn't want to go, I didn't want to go, I don't, I didn't care enough to go anymore. Like, like you could network and like, but I don't want to do anything. Like I don't want to do a collab. Yeah, I could go and I could meet all these people. And you know me, I'll set up a schedule of guests for like the next four years out of going to one TwitchCon. I don't want to. So I'm like to protect myself from going right back into something that's going to get me overwhelmed. I'm just not going to do it. I'm not going to go and subject myself to that to myself.

Speaker 3: 30:28

So so Mr West, I'm going to wrap up here because I am getting message by my wife to come back inside, but anything you'd like to the promoter pitch as we kind of wrap wine down here.

Speaker 1: 30:44

Yeah, something simple, and it's. It's the end of the year, right November, december timeframe, and people suffer what through all types of mental health issues, right Ups and downs. Some folks don't have jobs, some people have lost loved ones. I think my message to everybody is just make sure that you're checking up on your friends, your peers, people in the community to make sure that they're okay. And I'll be doing the same thing, because the holiday times, as great as it is, as much as I love it, there's a lot of sadness that comes along with it. So I don't have anything special going on. I didn't know a special collabs for guests, for my crumble cookies and chatting. I just want to end the year on a positive note and I want to say thank you, guys for having me and thank you to the community for allowing me to make it this far in my journey. That's it, salaam.

Speaker 3: 31:35

Appreciate it. It's been great having you, great talking to you, as always. If you know of anything you'd like to wrap up with, yeah, it's been fantastic this is.

Speaker 2: 31:42

It's a West sail of the week. It's been a good few months since we've done something and been on camera together or talking, so it's great to actually have that again. I think the first time we interacted actually was on Morp's channel, to be honest, so it's great to see that these connections, I guess, is still around.

Speaker 1: 32:06

You should tell the truth. Bairdit, you blew my mind. When you had the full camera house and every room, you went in a camera turned on Everyone did. I was like who is this guy and what is he doing? I wanna be like him when I grow up. I was like I'm just gonna go to the kitchen. I'm in the bathroom right now, I'm just in the hallway. But like, oh shit, he's in the hallway, look at that one.

Speaker 2: 32:28

I was like it was a mature stream of house of just myself.

Speaker 1: 32:31

It was very cool, Very cool man.

Speaker 3: 32:35

All right, M-Wost, thanks for hanging out.

Speaker 4: 32:38

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