DadMode: Parenting, Gaming, Streaming, Life

Content Creation Insights: Gaming, Streaming and YouTube

December 12, 2023 DadMode Season 1 Episode 12
Content Creation Insights: Gaming, Streaming and YouTube
DadMode: Parenting, Gaming, Streaming, Life
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DadMode: Parenting, Gaming, Streaming, Life
Content Creation Insights: Gaming, Streaming and YouTube
Dec 12, 2023 Season 1 Episode 12
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Have you ever wondered how to juggle the rigors of life while keeping a buoyant online presence? From family commitments to finding the sweet spot in content creation, we're lifting the lid on it all. Join us on this thrilling ride with Pastilly, a streaming veteran who endured a 45-day sub-a-thon while managing his family life, and Pastor Gaines, whose successes in the streaming industry are nothing short of inspirational. 

We're tearing down the conventional wisdom of using a one-size-fits-all approach in video editing. Listen in as we explore the need for editors who can capture your unique style and the art of negotiating a fair price. We also delve into the power dynamics within content creation teams and offer insights on why having the right person for the right job can be a game-changer. Ready to make content that doesn't just grab attention but adds value? Buckle up!

Lastly, we're dissecting the YouTube content strategy and analytics to help you avoid the pitfalls of stagnation and overcorrection. We'll discuss the art of remixing old content into a fresh style and the significance of having an 'unofficial manager' to help navigate changes. From gaming and streaming to finding the perfect editor on Fiverr, whether you're a novice or a seasoned content creator, this episode promises to be a treasure trove of insights. Tune in for a riveting conversation that's bound to leave you motivated!

Support the Show.

Josh aka Bearded_Nova
I'm from Australia and am what you would call a father who games. I have 5 kids so not as much time to game as I used to. But I still game and stream when I can. So come join me on Twitch in chat as we chill out.

Business Inquiries: Bearded-n0va@aussiebb.com.au


Josh aka Moorph
I'm a US-based husband and father of two boys. I work full-time and have been a content creator since 2000. I'm a YouTube partner, Twitch and LiveSpace streamer who founded a content creation coaching company called Elev8d Media Group (elev8d.media). I'm a blogger, streamer, podcaster, and video-er(?).

Business Inquiries: josh@elev8d.media

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Have you ever wondered how to juggle the rigors of life while keeping a buoyant online presence? From family commitments to finding the sweet spot in content creation, we're lifting the lid on it all. Join us on this thrilling ride with Pastilly, a streaming veteran who endured a 45-day sub-a-thon while managing his family life, and Pastor Gaines, whose successes in the streaming industry are nothing short of inspirational. 

We're tearing down the conventional wisdom of using a one-size-fits-all approach in video editing. Listen in as we explore the need for editors who can capture your unique style and the art of negotiating a fair price. We also delve into the power dynamics within content creation teams and offer insights on why having the right person for the right job can be a game-changer. Ready to make content that doesn't just grab attention but adds value? Buckle up!

Lastly, we're dissecting the YouTube content strategy and analytics to help you avoid the pitfalls of stagnation and overcorrection. We'll discuss the art of remixing old content into a fresh style and the significance of having an 'unofficial manager' to help navigate changes. From gaming and streaming to finding the perfect editor on Fiverr, whether you're a novice or a seasoned content creator, this episode promises to be a treasure trove of insights. Tune in for a riveting conversation that's bound to leave you motivated!

Support the Show.

Josh aka Bearded_Nova
I'm from Australia and am what you would call a father who games. I have 5 kids so not as much time to game as I used to. But I still game and stream when I can. So come join me on Twitch in chat as we chill out.

Business Inquiries: Bearded-n0va@aussiebb.com.au


Josh aka Moorph
I'm a US-based husband and father of two boys. I work full-time and have been a content creator since 2000. I'm a YouTube partner, Twitch and LiveSpace streamer who founded a content creation coaching company called Elev8d Media Group (elev8d.media). I'm a blogger, streamer, podcaster, and video-er(?).

Business Inquiries: josh@elev8d.media

Speaker 1:

Welcome to Dad Mode, a podcast that is to try for us, a gaming, streaming and dad life.

Speaker 2:

And then you try to show the podcast with some older men past their age. Well, I got you. What's going on, guys? This is damn Daniel. So, man, I am, so, I am. So the reason why I was late and I apologize, gentlemen is because I'm working on a new video for Cyberpunk where it's one of the iconic weapons, but it's the rarest iconic weapon where you can't just purchase it and you have to glitch your way in there to get the gun out. Oh yeah, so it's been so much crap that I've been doing to get this video at one minute, yeah, and I still have another 45 to an hour of trimming to do before I can finalize it and add all my graphics.

Speaker 3:

How long are your normal videos?

Speaker 2:

So my original videos before I got monetized on Tiktok were like 35 to 45 seconds. Ok, so adding that extra 15 seconds of time is a lot, because if you go past that 15 seconds you're like well, people don't want to sit here and watch a minute Video, right, a minute and five seconds or a minute and six seconds. I'm pushing it now by a minute, so I got to keep it within like that one minute, and then I want to recycle these videos so I can't go over a minute.

Speaker 1:

Oh, because YouTube is a.

Speaker 3:

YouTube stops it. That's what screwed me over with eyes on.

Speaker 1:

When I was doing eyes on, I was happy to do it like a minute and a half on Tiktok. Like I'm like cool, I can do two, three topics and parking three topics in a day, put it in one clip, put it on Tiktok. And then it got to YouTube. I'm like fuck. Ok, it's changed it completely. I'm like fuck.

Speaker 2:

I'm going to cut this out and it just cuts you off, yeah, and then Facebook does the same thing and it's weird because a lot of people say they're not successful on Facebook. My stuff sells on Facebook, man, people are just loving it. All my old call duty stuff. I put it on there. Two hundred thousand views, three hundred thousand videos on Tiktok.

Speaker 3:

Well, I'm sorry, and your flex show no.

Speaker 2:

I'm not. You know our, our conversations that we've had for hours about how stressful I am and how I need to do this and what do you think of that? Like I have, like you, blue Thunder, I talked to Pastor Gaines and I talked to the Daily Dad when I can tell, when he's not busy and like my struggles of like for like, I'm going from like a happy, like topic to like a dark topic now because my stress levels, my, my anxiety, my depression, yeah, all this struggle from where I started to where I am, if anybody really asked me, like a young kid goes, hey, I want to be a streamer. I'm going to tell them do it when you're young, because the older you are, the older you are, the harder it is to maintain that lifestyle that you want to maintain. You have a family, you have a wife, you have kids, you have responsibilities. This takes presidents over a lot of that stuff.

Speaker 2:

Mm. Hmm, I gave up Fortnite Fridays because I couldn't, you know, do that stuff for my son anymore. I'm like, dude, I'm so exhausted. I had this done, I got to get that. Yeah, and you know, tick Tock goes. Well, here's a $500 paycheck how about that? For just four videos that you posted.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that's pretty cool.

Speaker 2:

And I'm like I like that. Tick Tock. No, I don't. You all you know I'm like damn Tick Tock. You got me again. All right, I'm coming back into the office. You know like yeah, yeah and she is crazy.

Speaker 3:

It is crazy and it's. It's tough for guys like you and me, bearded daily dad Pastor Gaines, like we're all got into it in their mid 30s, 40s, whatever Right, and like you're right. If I can't put the energy into it that I want to because I have other responsibilities, I wish I was in my 20s and single doing this.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I'd be a mess.

Speaker 2:

I would be the doctor, she's specs of streaming. It's my first photo Like it's happening.

Speaker 3:

I can guarantee you, if I was doing this in my 20s, I would be in a content house right now. Yeah, I would be in a content house, you know absolutely.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, no place would be safe in my house. I would be a mess. I would be a mess. I wouldn't even know. I don't even know where I'd have a shower. What are those last proper meal I had, like, oh, just be.

Speaker 3:

It would just be Uber eats and doordash on cycle Coming to my house and I'm on camera all the time, doing something like it would be like I would just be, like I would just be like, all right, dan, you me, dad, where are we going to get a house content? Oh, you know what?

Speaker 2:

That would be crazy. But did you imagine that we would be like the Jersey Shore, Like ah, that's what it would be? Would it be streamers?

Speaker 3:

I'll show you. I still did that, but it's yeah, oh, yeah, yeah so that's stream.

Speaker 1:

So there's a stream, a stream, a stream. I call pastilly and he's one of the big ones on Twitch and he did a sub-a-phone that went for 45 days. He's 40, like 30 years. He did a sub-a-phone for 30 days. No, no, no, he's married, he's got kids.

Speaker 1:

But how he did it? He did it in a really tactical way. He did it at his house, separate. He had his neighbor who's, he's got into content creation there and then he's also flowing up another partner Twitch stream that he met through the game over to his house and that guy's toast racks like 60, 65, 70. So the three of them all sat, stayed in the townhouse or the granny flat off his house and did the, did this sub-a-phone, but rotating, so one could go properly, sleep, go, do things, like it was like the smartest way to do a sub-a-phone without actually At an older age, it was a content house for people over 40 More of you made a.

Speaker 3:

He made tens of thousands of subs right.

Speaker 1:

Well, he started the sub. If on, I think, at three hours One sub or one or a thousand, one sub of 500 bits would give him one minute of content.

Speaker 3:

So if you start at three hours and then went 45 days. You do the math.

Speaker 2:

He made more.

Speaker 3:

He made more than I make in probably two years.

Speaker 2:

No, that's BS, Just tick tock, took half of that. I mean I switched to cat for that he is arm.

Speaker 1:

He's been partnered for a while, so 70 70%.

Speaker 2:

How does that?

Speaker 3:

because it's 50, 50 now if you still on a, his have to resign the contract.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah it's contracted, those partners, even though some of the lot of partners, like the complain, the old ones, it's all about your contract. You have to sign the contract to go down to 50 50.

Speaker 2:

And I guarantee you, I guarantee you, that top 100 isn't stuck on the Stuck on those 50, 50, you know you might have a point there, but guess, we just guess who just left twitch, who Nick Merck's?

Speaker 1:

That's what he is on YouTube.

Speaker 2:

He went. He went to kick, right, so he went. He went from. He went from twitch yeah to you two for a little bit and then got offered a huge settlement or a huge contract With with twitch and stood there and I guess his contract expired and now he's at kick yeah. Listen, we might not like what kick is doing with their you know, with their stuff, but they're no different than anybody else.

Speaker 3:

All right, they are. They are, and I'm gonna try not to go into a.

Speaker 3:

Tanger about this. But so I've done a lot of obviously a lot of research in the kick and, like they signed big names, they throw big dollars out there, they get big names and what I've noticed in the year that they've existed is it's not doing much for them and Beyond that, twitch. Twitch is averaging the same amount of everything that they were before kick started like kick is adding people, but so what happens is basically they're not having the same amount of return viewers. They don't. When people do go to the site, they don't stay as long and the bounce back rates, like people that are on there for less than five minutes, is like 50%, 50 something percent when, as kick is like in the 30s. I'll give you another one they're contracting crazy.

Speaker 1:

Have a look at who they, who they signed on contracts and who they haven't signed on contracts. They've only signed people on contracts that they know that can break a contract and they can get out of that financial State. Yeah, look how much they did. You know ex-QC for fucking ice beside, and doc only wanted 50 million dollars and they wouldn't sign doc. Yep, it's a lot less than they have, no, but it's a lot less than some of those other creators. The difference between doc and those other creators Doc is unionized and knows how to do a deal where they won't be able to back out of that contract and they would have to pay him if had that, if anything. So the problem with all these other guys.

Speaker 1:

I've got on there at the moment shit goes down south a guarantee They'll be able to back out of every one of those contracts that they owe QC a hundred million dollars for, because that's because of the content creators they signed.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah and I think it's also a problem that they're not requiring Exclusivity, which I know nobody wants it, right, nobody wants it. But what's happened is like XQC, I show speed, bruce, all those guys that have signed the kick. They still stream on twitch, so twitch isn't even losing them, they're just kick is paying a lot more, a lot of money for them. So, like I get it, they're in the news a lot, but I still don't know that. I love their business model, you know yeah.

Speaker 2:

No, I think this is, right now, the both of you. I'm gonna tell you the both of you right now. Okay, if you guys get a contract from kick and it's a yeah seen a amount of money I'm not standing right over you smack in the back of the head telling you to sign you know it's on, Absolutely take their money and I will talk shit every moment that I'm on air.

Speaker 2:

That's, that's it. That's it. That's all you have to do. All right, just get on there, get your money, get paid. We are no longer in the. We are no longer in the business already creating Content. We are in the business of making money. Now We've gone to a certain level in our career as creators that we're doing this for an income. Now we're not doing this for fun. It's not fun anymore. I'm not having fun. Are you having fun?

Speaker 1:

I'm having fun doing this. Podcast is fun.

Speaker 2:

But then you have to stop the podcast, go back to reality and focus on editing Making sure that the contents there, making sure you put it out in a certain time, making sure that it hits, looking at your algorithm, looking at these numbers, so you can continue to do what you're doing.

Speaker 2:

Yeah it's fun to an extent, but then reality sets you like shit. I need three videos a day for this. I need five years a day. I gotta do a video for tiktok and do Instagram, youtube, facebook, um, I and a kick. You know now, now Twitch is allowing you to do, you know, chatting and shorts in there. Like, you know what the hell's going on? Like, why is everybody doing exactly what everybody else is doing? Can I just have an application to make my videos and just put everything out at the same time, all the same videos, and do the work for me?

Speaker 3:

So and the problem becomes when you realize you have to do all that stuff and you say I don't have time. So everybody says, oh, you get a higher enter, you got to do that, and you go, that makes sense. But I'm not making enough consistently to hire that editor to do. But even when you do, I just tour through 70% of my goddamn profits.

Speaker 3:

Yes, you know what I mean, so like you got to find that bounce, you got to get even bigger, you got to do even more until you can get enough money to hire the editor, to then use your profits, which gives you some more time back. It's a vicious fucking cycle.

Speaker 2:

I went on Fiverr right and I looked for an editor and I wanted three videos. So the guy wanted. I think he wanted like $50 for a three minute video.

Speaker 1:

Man, I got an editor for you. I got one for you. I got an editor I used for a couple of YouTube videos. He did write his price and was fucking fantastic Like it was 10 bucks or something.

Speaker 2:

But I'm not worried about the pricing, it's about being able to mimic my style. That's the issue that I'm having there, because I do a certain style of video. I'm like, all right, you know what I talked to. I talked to, you know, a couple of people and they were like, well, just just copy my style, don't copy my style, but do my, use, my flow. I'm like, all right, you know, I'll try it. So I was like here, this is what the video needs to look like One three minute video. He wanted 50 bucks. I was like, well, I don't want one three minute video, can you make me three one minute videos? Not a problem. He wanted 50 bucks per each video.

Speaker 2:

I'm like, well, that doesn't make any sense. Like, yeah, yeah, so we started contracting and you go off your contract and you give me another deal, and I'm like this is sketchy, bro, this is like BS. So I went with it. Man, I'm going to tell you I have not used these videos yet. I actually deleted them and haven't even posted them. Really, it was so bad. I'm like this is a waste of time, dude. Like I can't believe I went through all this.

Speaker 2:

No, I'm not, no, but no, it was like I'm scrolling.

Speaker 1:

I'm scrolling from my discord because I met Sam through I don't know how I did it through Twitter, but he was the only person I put it out there on Twitter and he was the only one that wasn't really body or fiverish that came in, gave me videos that he's made links to those YouTube channels, like. He gave me all the, all the information I want to know that he could actually do the job and then from that his pricing was great. He's that I said well, how you know a lot of them go. You give us an hours content. We're going to. You know it's so much for an hours worth of content to sit through, or two hours worth of content. He didn't have that and I, when he gave me the price and I do, do you want more? Like, is there a limit on how much I can give you? He's like no, no, no, I'm just going to deliver you on a 10 minute video. You want a 10 minute video? That's $10. I'll do it for you. And it was great, sam, he was great.

Speaker 2:

I want to. So I know I'm going to get to a point in my my career that I can't use cyberpunk anymore. I can use it for a certain amount of time.

Speaker 3:

I can use it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, absolutely so. I need to start migrating towards a universal style of content, content that everybody can relate to, where brands go. Well, this guy can do this, this and this. So let's you know, let's ask him to see what he can do. Yo, by the way, pastor Gaines, a big shout out to you. You're making some huge moves, super proud of you. Just wanted to throw it out there, but I talked. But I talked to Pastor and he's like you know, I was talking to him earlier today and he was giving me some advice on what I need to do.

Speaker 2:

The same thing with blue the other day. Blue was, you know, blue jumps into my desk where he goes yeah, don't do that, do this. That's that. That's not going to work for you. I'm like why should I listen to you? And then I go through his history. I'm like yeah, that's why this is why I'm listening to you, no question. I'm like yes, dad, not a problem right now, you know. So I'm going to start switching stuff up and my biggest concern is that I know that I'm going to get low views on it. But one thing I've learned from TikTok is that just keep doing the same thing and keep pushing it, because it eventually start flowing. So that's that's what I'm going to do, and if I got to start a new TikTok to do it, then so be it.

Speaker 1:

But 20 dollars. It was for 10 minutes, so I didn't have a took any amount of footage to create that 10 minutes and I just said I wanted like a meme style video because I was thinking I was doing a VR game that I got him to do and he had never done a VR content before, so he did it really, so you challenged him. I challenged him. He came back delivered. He's like I was really happy with this. I didn't mind doing that, so I was. I was happy with it too.

Speaker 2:

It was better than mine. I just reached out to him for me and just say, hey, listen, I got this creator who's interested? You might give him a?

Speaker 1:

man, I'll do that.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I'll do that I keep on Twitter because he keeps doing bits and pieces.

Speaker 3:

But yeah, he was a nice guy.

Speaker 2:

So today's true that?

Speaker 1:

was a two day turnaround One to two days Listen.

Speaker 2:

I just need three videos a month. That's all I need One minute videos. When I can't make the content, I use that one minute video to fill in the gap.

Speaker 1:

It'll allow me to take a day off.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you know that's all.

Speaker 3:

You mentioned that you had to cancel four day Fridays. Yes, how'd that go over.

Speaker 2:

So it hasn't, it hasn't, he's, he's out my ass. Chase has been on my ass for like months. Like, can we do four night? Right, I'm like we can, but I have to this podcast to do and then I have this to finish and then I'm streaming tonight and since I'm only streaming two days a week now, it's really hard for you know, for me to get anything done. Yeah, so it's just like, oh, and I feel bad. But now that there's news that I saw on Blue Thunder's pod Tic-Tac, that Halo has a battle Royale releasing, now, yeah, not from, not from Halo itself, but from the forge where they create the games themselves. So a team of people went in there and created a battle Royale that has a lot of the similarities to Call of Duty's, like style of gaming.

Speaker 3:

So they're re-skidding Call of Duty, battle Royale or whatever with fucking Halo skins, pretty much.

Speaker 2:

I'm excited. I'm excited to get into. I haven't played a battle in months. Yeah, I updated Call of Duty. I've done it. I'm going to buy the new game because you know the game Battle Royale is shit. I get it right and people you know rag on it, but they play it anyway. But their campaign games are amazing and the stories and the detail in the graphics are like captivating, and that's what I like to show people Like. There's beauty and chaos, you know, sometimes, for example, cyberpunk horrible game, horrible game when it released. But it wasn't about the bad stuff about the game, it was the relationships you built with the characters and and how beautiful the city looked.

Speaker 1:

It was the beauty.

Speaker 2:

It was beauty For me, that game.

Speaker 1:

I played at that launch and I still played through all the problem because it was more the beauty, the technological feet, of making me put in this city and it wasn't the same recycled shit. I was happy to just walk from one end to the other and just explore the city. There's nothing there and I was happy just looking around like that. That's cool.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, my, my experience was a little different. I said I played it once for two or three hours on stream. It was also a drunk stream. I I remember stopping because Goulet at one point was like I couldn't drive through the city Like I you were hitting, cut hitting, you were drunk. Yes, she's like. You need us to stop this, just stop this.

Speaker 2:

So that was it. That was it. That's crazy. No, I you know. It's crazy that I could take a game that's three years old, make some content about it and watch it blow up and people are like, oh well, it's about being repetitive. I'm actually. No, it's not about being repetitive. That's some of it, but it's it's your style of editing and the information that you put in your videos that make it captivating. You got to. You got to hook them.

Speaker 3:

So it's about the value that you're giving them right, and I'll give you context your, your style. I remember when you first showed it to me in your old account, I was like I don't know what's in why you're not blowing up this is yeah, I loved it.

Speaker 1:

I loved it. I always loved your stuff.

Speaker 3:

But then I think about someone like Kat Liente, who she she gets Probably as many views as you're getting in your videos. She's holding her phone, it's fucking shaky. She has a light and she gives a tip and it blows up. So because it's about the value like you're building value, she's building value. Everybody does it a different way. So I think the problem is people try to emulate one or the other. Like I can't just emulate you, I can't emulate her, because like it may not be my thing. You know what I mean.

Speaker 2:

So I use this. The other day, when I was talking to, this is the ray and he you know we were talking on my bro we were just recycled versions of other creators. We've evolved to a different version, but we're recycled. Everything we've done has been done and it's going to continue to be done after us, because, you know, we put a camera up. That's been done already. We're recording ourselves. That's been done already. We got mice, we got mixers, we got this. We're showing games. It's all been done. It's just how you make yourself different is what makes people stand out.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah. You have to be like genuine, you have to be true to yourself and your style like not vacant, like um, that's. I think that's why you're you're just working out, you know people hate.

Speaker 2:

Well, I got you, I get hate. I get hate messages every day. I watched your video and now, well, I got you Disturbing. I'm like well, I got your mom too. So what else do you want to hear? You know, what are you going to tell you?

Speaker 1:

Like, so, I'm going to give you guys the same thing, though we fit with he's let's talk. Let's talk about it when he's talking about the tacos, not get the same thing about the taco. Let's love it People love, it, people hate it.

Speaker 2:

So I'm going to give you guys a mind and write this down. Okay, this is a tip. This is an insider tip. That's been working, okay. So anybody that's listening to this podcast, a successful content creator on TikTok is giving you a tip. Use it, okay.

Speaker 2:

Run this down. When you're giving somebody gaming information okay, and people know this game inside it out Use a character's wrong name, use something and say something wrong slightly, what's that going to do is going to create Backlash, in a sense, where people are going to use that video and say, hey, well, this is wrong, that's how it goes. Or this is not the person's name Well, that's not this.

Speaker 2:

My most successful video is the. Are you trying to be like David Martinez, also known as V? They're completely different people, two different people, but I use an edge runners reference and a cyberpunk reference and I mix them together Two of the main characters, two different characters, two different timelines Okay, but I use them together and people are going nuts Like that's wrong, this is wrong, that's not his name. Who's this guy? This guy, but the video has. If I look at the video right now and I go to the video and I'd look, let me scroll up and it's the one with Johnny Silverhand in the beginning. I'll tell you right now 471,000 views, okay, with 47,000 likes, 17,000 saves and over 1,000 messages based on you know people saying you know, this is wrong, that's wrong, so that's what. And it kept the algorithm pushing.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I've had that before when you started war with someone like yeah, I did that, yeah, I was on, I did a Diablo 4 and PoE2 coming out. Poe2 was coming back and like it's going to take, take some of the numbers off Diablo 4. It just turned into a war in the comments of people fucking hanging on each game. I didn't even know the people hated. I thought everyone was in the same category, just loved that style of game. I didn't know there was a divide in the audience. I'll say it. And then you were saying the wrong information. I told Wolf in the past like some of the Blues videos irritate me because it's bad information in there and I know different and I'm like I know he's doing it on purpose. It's easier than he's doing it on purpose or he's really fucking stupid.

Speaker 2:

One or the other because it's irritated me Steve when, when doing the research and doing stuff like this, you're going to get. Well, I get so many mixed messages where I have to keep going deeper and deeper. By the time I realized I'm down a rabbit hole four or five hours of just researching the same thing by like 300 different sources, and then I have to put all that together into a 45 seconds video and now I have to do a minute of it. It's hard, dude, and I get it. You know I'm wrong. I am wrong all the time and I'm like you know what. I'll be wrong, but you watched my video, you hearted it, you saved Job done.

Speaker 3:

It's like what I do what are you Tori tutorial videos on on Tik Tok or YouTube. Somebody's like hey, can you do something that shows me how to track an object? I'm like sure I'm gonna fucking watch a YouTube video on how to do it and then let me try to do that, and then you know it's all reasons Like people think that we know everything. No, I fucking look the shit up, just like you do.

Speaker 2:

I work IT for a living dude. I get it 100%. So how do I send a source inside of this email with this link attached, plus a posted with my signature? Fucking no, what do you want me to tell you? You're calling helpers to teach you how to send an email. Yeah, give me a second. Oh, yeah, so you got to go here, you got to go there. Click on this, click on that. Done Great. How'd you find that so fast, google. What do you love?

Speaker 3:

Easy piece of shit, good Google.

Speaker 2:

Listen, this is why I get paid, though, so that's my real job right now, so I need them not to know. I need them not to know.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, my job is I manage people, so I don't do anything, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Must be nice, I'm kidding. You know he also manages the damn Daniels gaming channel on TikTok. My unofficial manager. Unofficial manager yeah.

Speaker 3:

Every other week. Are you branching out, yet?

Speaker 2:

Are you branching out, yet Are you branching out yet I'm waiting for that email. I'm waiting for that email. I'm like bro, maybe you're the first artist.

Speaker 3:

I get anxious in terms of that. People not you, but the general public they get stagnant. But as long as it's working, you want to work, but I think what you have to do is you have to watch the growth and when it starts plateauing not when it's going down, when it starts plateauing that's when you're like okay, stop mixing. Let me start changing it a little bit.

Speaker 2:

So one of my videos hit 23,000 views, yep. So I'm like, all right, well, that's not good, because most of my videos are in the 50 to 60 right now. So, yeah, I don't know what I should do, so, but I took a couple. I took a couple of days off, okay, so I feel like that had an effect on it. So I'm going to post another video. I'm going to see how that does and if it starts to do bad or it doesn't hit the mark, you need to behave yourself more. If I see you holding it in bro, I'm trying to. I see you holding it in bro. No, if it doesn't do good, then I'm going to start to branch out and try to do, you know, some gaming news content or breaking news.

Speaker 1:

Just run it out there and one out something Do along with CD project red. I've stick into that open world style one. But maybe either you know timing's off, you know, if we had more of that Witcher 4 starting to come in, you could move into the Witcher 4, which is the next, next style from them, or find another open world.

Speaker 2:

Who the fuck is this guy? Can somebody just tell me who this guy is, because you know? I think you need to have these people bro, these socks man.

Speaker 1:

These socks are done. The news.

Speaker 3:

Right out of my mouth. Here's some more advice. Don't overreact to like blips in your data.

Speaker 2:

Right.

Speaker 3:

Like I did. I've done analysis, like my whole career too. Like you want to look at a trend, you don't want to look. You'll have spikes. If you look at any trend, it's all. It's always like this right, it's never smooth. So like when you had the one against 23,000, you used the 50, it doesn't mean anything, it's one video. If your next five do 23 or 20 and 17 and 26, then it's like okay, all right. So maybe it's something's happening. But don't overreact, because you overreact, you over correct.

Speaker 2:

Oh, yeah, I know, and then it's worse. Yeah, I know, my, my original TikTok channel was just like an odd. The algorithm was so confused that it didn't know where to go. Like, cause, I started off on like positive stuff and then I did sympathy videos and stuff like that and these were all honest feelings and stuff like that. But you know, I did that and then I started doing you know tech stuff and then I started doing like call of duty stuff and the algorithm was like well, I don't know where to put this guy. Yeah, he's using hashtags and he's using the right formula, but it's so convoluted Like there's nothing that he can do to come out of that. Right.

Speaker 3:

And that's where I got with my stuff. Cause, like, my problem is like I know that I need to create a new channel at some point, but I don't know what I want to do. You know what it means. Like I'm not going to create a channel until I figure that out.

Speaker 2:

You should post your only fan content, bro. That'll sell. Hey, that's the secret.

Speaker 3:

Um, no, so it's funny. Like I actually want to do I don't think you did this, but like I have a lot of content I'm proud of. When I find this style that I want, I'm going to remix some of my old content into a new style because I still believe the content, the message of the content, was good. You know what I mean, so we'll see.

Speaker 2:

No, no, I don't know what you mean.

Speaker 1:

I'm just going to remix all of my bikini tiktoks into a new channel.

Speaker 2:

It's going to be it's going to be.

Speaker 1:

it's going to be totally earned channel, no, no.

Speaker 2:

This is how it came up here, dude, Our kids are going to look back at this and be like dad. That was you. Yeah, Like you know, yeah, that was me, that was me. I'm proud of it.

Speaker 3:

I love that I can sense my children cringing inside the house right now.

Speaker 2:

That's that you succeeded in parenting. Yes, my job is to embarrass this shit out of my kids. Smash.

Speaker 1:

Smash said he uses me as an image to his children about the dangers of the internet and what you run into. We had met in bikinis.

Speaker 2:

I like what Smash is doing. I talk to Smash a lot as well and I like what he's doing with all his tech stuff. And I was like, dude, you should, you should, you should make it more about the tech stuff and not as much as you like one of my biggest things. Or I would be focused on having me on camera a lot, yeah, and I was like that's not important. You know I'm narrating, so I want to show people what they need to figure out than what they need to see, and you know I don't need to be on camera as much. I'll do an intro clip, I'll do my pop up and then I'll do an outro clip, but nothing as much. And I've done a lot of changes in the last couple of weeks where I don't even do my ending anymore. I don't do like. You know I did the research, so you don't have to and give me a. I don't do that anymore Because that's just taking up time from information that I'm not going to watch either.

Speaker 2:

That's, that's, it's, it's.

Speaker 1:

I did that with the eyes on. I had an intro, I had a, I had a splash screen intro, I had an intro and exit on all my things and then I realized that was killing time. I was there for me but I didn't need. I didn't need the date, I didn't need to know when this news was coming out. Just cut it. It's straight from boom, boom, boom over. That's it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, Go ahead more, my bad.

Speaker 3:

I was just saying I did. I did something similar where I changed my style. I did a series of five to 10 gaming news videos where I wasn't in an at all, just narrating. They instantly did better.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, cause they don't really care about us. They just care about what they're giving them.

Speaker 3:

Cause they just say what was that whole dude? That's like my dad.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, You're going into a store selling a product. I'm sorry I'm. I'm the consumer wanted to buy the product. I'm not going to go into the store If I know what I'm looking for and ask the employee how does it work If I know what I'm looking for?

Speaker 1:

Come back next week for part two with damn Daniel, you're not going to want to miss it.

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