Lessons from a Gamer Dad: Strategies for Academic Success

What if there was a way to fuse your child's love for gaming with academic success? Imagine a household where video games aren't a bone of contention but a tool for positive reinforcement. Meet our guest, an expert in gaming and parental tactics, who shares his experience balancing being a dad and a gamer. He offers a fascinating insight into his unique reward system, which he uses to motivate his kids to excel in school. Hear all about how his 15-year-old son, an avid gamer and honor student, navigates this system.

We've all heard that parenting doesn't come with a manual, but what if you could gather valuable insights from another parent's journey? Our guest reveals his strategies that helped his children improve their grades, including the controversial practice of taking away their cherished items to teach them about consequences. He engages us in a profound conversation about the importance of parental control and the lessons it can instill in children. 

Moving from gaming to streaming, we weigh the pros and cons of this popular activity among kids. We take you through the process of setting up a live stream while discussing vital elements like parental controls, profanity filters, and managing streaming for positive outcomes. Our guest also shares an unexpected side of his life - a 90-day streaming project that yielded surprising financial results. This episode is not just about parenting and gaming; it's about navigating the ever-evolving landscape of the digital age. Tune in for an enlightening discussion that could revolutionize your approach to modern parenting.

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:00

Welcome to Dad Mode, a podcast that is to try course of gaming, streaming and dad life with him.

Speaker 2: 0:07

All right, I got a guess. This is a gentleman. This is a gentleman, gentlemen. Actually we got this gentleman by, just by 20.

Speaker 3: 0:18

Hello we we keep getting the future, future. Can we ask him about Fridays? Sure Um, how do you like doing what? Do you miss the fortnight Fridays?

Speaker 1: 0:31

Yes, you need to tell him to start doing them again.

Speaker 2: 0:35

Yes, when are you going to start doing them again? He's asking. Hmm I actually don't know, because my dad said he doesn't like playing Fortnite anymore. I didn't say I didn't like playing Fortnite. What I said was that I don't have time to play Fortnite. You said this is back. You don't play those kind of games anymore, that's what.

Speaker 2: 0:54

I said was I didn't say I didn't like. I said I don't play those types of games anymore because I'm doing cyberpunk stuff. That's completely different than saying I don't like you. See, I don't like you, but I deal with you, no.

Speaker 1: 1:06

Close enough.

Speaker 3: 1:08

Oh man, You're going to take that chase.

Speaker 2: 1:14

Hey, do my intro for me. If you knew the cyberpunk 2077 and you tried to upgrade your gear, well, I got you.

Speaker 3: 1:25

Yes, that's fantastic. Well done, Well I love you, pal.

Speaker 2: 1:29

I'm going to have him do one of my intros for me. Yeah, good, see you later, pal. That's my twin personality, everything.

Speaker 1: 1:36

Well, yeah, when we first started this podcast it's like first, lot of recording my wife had to go out. She's like, yeah, next, you know, we've got a baby in the first, first episode after recording.

Speaker 2: 1:47

Good dude, like you know that's. I think that's what makes the best content, though Nothing scripted. We're having fun, we're talking, we'll eventually get to the actual questions, but you know, when it does, it does. I'm actually enjoying myself.

Speaker 3: 1:59

So no, there are no, that's the thing I started as a kid. I'm like what are we going to talk about with him tonight?

Speaker 2: 2:04

We just swing it?

Speaker 3: 2:05

I don't know.

Speaker 2: 2:06

Well, I remember, I remember you guys asked a couple of questions on Twitter. We did. You know, parenting like rewards and stuff like that with the kids in gaming, and I made a I said. What I said was I don't I let my kids like his game all the time. I didn't want to game 24, seven. They can do it, but I need specifics. So my 15 year old is an honor student Straight A's. You give me anything less than an A. You're not gaming. You're not gaming.

Speaker 2: 2:36

We're going to go back to three days a week Thursday, Friday, Saturdays. That is it. If you're failing tests, you're not going to game on the weekends either. So he knows his responsibilities. If he wants to game, that's what he does. He comes home, takes out the trash, make sure that the carpets are vacuumed. We do it twice a week. So you know, five days a week is kind of crazy. So make sure the car is a vacuum. You know, make sure your room is clean. You're responsible for your bathroom because they always have their own bathroom. So I'm responsible for your own bathroom and your brother's responsible for his room and helping you with the trash when it's too much. Yeah, If I see the recycling is not taken out because we go through a lot of recycling.

Speaker 1: 3:16

Yeah, yeah, my youngest. I've been recycling. Yeah, she's just from the recycling. And then every second day I'm like, hey, that bin is overflowing, you need to get that out to recycling. And she's she looks at me. I'm like maybe you picked the wrong bin. I said you had the choice between general rubbish and recycling bottles Takes up a lot more space. In general, rubbish Like yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2: 3:38

So if I see the trash is overflowing, that's a couple of hours off his gaming. So he can't come home and game. So he's like, damn, now I got to wait till six o'clock to game. I'm like, yeah, and that means that you go to bed at 10 o'clock, though, so you only have this X amount of time. So, by the way, here in Jersey, my, my 15 year old son does not get homework ever, ever in high school, in high school.

Speaker 1: 4:00

Really so yeah, so over here, homework is a thing, but it's not like set in stone. It's more like hey, this is a suggestion. You should probably look at this stuff because that's what we're going to test you on. You won't get graded on homework, but if you don't do it, that's your own problem. Like you're going to be putting yourself at a disadvantage by not doing that stuff.

Speaker 2: 4:22

Or so the 15 year old's like all right, well, everything is done. So I come home and I check and then that's when I decide. You know where the games he's big into Rainbow, rainbow Six Siege.

Speaker 1: 4:32

Oh, ok, can I start huge like like a can strike to.

Speaker 2: 4:36

it's kind of like that, but it's more of like a no the game.

Speaker 1: 4:41

I just meant, like, does he like Counter Strike to? That's a new one that's coming out.

Speaker 2: 4:44

He doesn't play it on. He plays on Xbox. He doesn't play it on PC, because it's a lot of cheaters apparently. I don't know.

Speaker 1: 4:50

There is, but there is, but still.

Speaker 2: 4:54

So he's into that. I'm like I can't get into that game. Do the graphics suck and I'm not into it? So he's like this is the game came out like 10 years ago. I'm not into it. It's pretty. It's just my thought process. But whatever he likes, he likes. It is what it is how you just started playing cyberpunk. I'm like, bro, if you're playing cyberpunk and your doors closed, I'm going to be really upset with you because you know they got some adult scenes in there. I'm like, if you're playing cyberpunk, you need to put it on, you know, you know.

Speaker 1: 5:17

I want the speakers on yeah.

Speaker 3: 5:20

I want to speak.

Speaker 2: 5:20

It needs to be censored mode and the speakers on, and I better not find you in Jiggy Street, and that's another cyberpunk resident.

Speaker 3: 5:28

I could just imagine that he's sitting there like how do I get through this thing? And out of nowhere you're like well.

Speaker 2: 5:32

I got you Pretty much. I've done that already to him. I kicked in the door. I'm like, yeah, oh, yeah, no. And then the eight year old has his own responsibilities. I understand that he's not prone to getting like really great gigs, but he needs to make an effort. Yeah, we're not. We're going to accept the lowest from the eight year old right now. We're going to accept a B minus. That's the lowest we're going to accept because we know his potential, we know he's capable of doing so. If you want a game, you want to be on your cell phone, then you want. You need to make sure you've done your reading, make sure you've done your math work, and that she. That worksheet needs to be signed by you, by what you done, and that's it. That's what's.

Speaker 1: 6:13

That's what they daily doubt about it. For me, I don't.

Speaker 1: 6:18

I don't care about the gun, I don't care too much about the grades, the grades, the grades are there. The one I look at when I get the report card is the effort which is underneath the grades, Because to me that effort tells me what their potential is. So if they're doing excellent, they're hitting an A, that's cool, they're hitting excellent. But they're only hitting a B. Well, they're putting as much effort as they can into it and they can't get any better. Like, I'm not going to push it, I'm even happy with a C and they're putting excellent. But if my son and he's a notorious one, out of them all there's always one, he's the one that comes in. It's like straight C's and D's and then you look at his effort and it's like, does not bother. It's like, yeah, dude, we got problems. We got problems, we do.

Speaker 2: 7:09

Yeah, I get that dude. So my older one he came home with a B in one of his classes and I think it was math. I'm like bro, you're an honor student, you run the principles list, you've been scouted for colleges, you're fully 15. Why am I seeing a D? I mean a B, unacceptable. You're done for the week. He's like what I'm like, you're done for the week. Why? Because you're acting like you don't care about this. It's just a B To us. It's not just a B because you've gone from straight A's all your life to now a B. Yes, you're being lazy and you're not showing effort. So my wife's like that's harsh. I'm like I bet you you'll be, I bet you that B and A next month. And lo and behold, a's, straight A's.

Speaker 1: 7:57

I think that'll be my youngest, if she, or not youngest now, the second youngest, if she ever comes back with a B, that will freak me out, because I've never seen, I've never seen anything less than an A from her, except for PE. She's not really athletic and she and she, she got to be. She's got them better. She got really happy the year that she got all A's in PE. She's like look at me, I could run. But my son, yeah, he was that A student and then over time that effort went and that's where his grades have gone. He was an A B student and then that's knowing that he has so much potential but doesn't want to use it, I guess as the irritating part.

Speaker 3: 8:36

Yeah, like we're working on that with my older son, who's always got, you know, really good grades, mostly A's, and then he's in middle school this year, sixth grade. Now he's in seventh grade and since about the middle of last year, middle of sixth grade, it's just been hit or miss, Like he's getting decent grades but he keeps not turning in assignments Like the little shit, the lazy shit makes his grade and like and like I submit to the IR For an opposite ends of how to deal with the situation.

Speaker 3: 9:11

I am at the point where I'm like I'm ready to storm downstairs, You'd be like I am demo.

Speaker 3: 9:16

She's like no, no, no, no, that's not going to accomplish anything. We need to be like well, OK, how about we do this? Or maybe you need a little more of this? And I'm like no, just, it's all done, it's all cut off. So, like this latest incident where he had like three F's because he didn't turn shit in, she's like I'm like I was about to go down. She's like, let me hear, I'm like all right, this is you, but if this doesn't work out, I'm taking over.

Speaker 2: 9:43

Where's your wife right now? She's working. Ok, good, so she's not anywhere around you guys, right? Because what I'm about to say she's not going to like. Ok, listen to me, you've done it her way for so long and it's not working. You need to drop the hammer on that shit, bro. As soon as you start taking things away, it's going to sound really bad, because people are like why are you so mean? Ok, you start taking shit away.

Speaker 2: 10:02

Things that he wants. Oh, playing with that Nintendo Switch. I like that Nintendo Switch. Let me see that Nintendo Switch. It's mine now, all right. Oh, is that your cell phone? That's a nice cell phone. What are you watching A TikTok on there? You watching my TikToks? Oh, that's good. Let me see that cell phone. That's great. That's my cell phone, my cell phone.

Speaker 2: 10:20

Yeah, once you start taking things away that are important to them and telling them that this importance, how to get this back, is how to do this, this and this, it's going to change their mindset because now you're giving it, it's a reward system. These kids are our kids, are spoiled, all of our kids are spoiled. They don't work for anything anymore. That's the problem. Gaming devices, all our old shit, becomes their shit. Yeah, you know, we've. We've built ourselves up so high that we no longer have to like they don't have to work for a reward because it's there for them already Screens, but TV is in every bedroom, game consoles are in every bedroom, computers, laptops, gaming devices, handhelds, cell phones they have everything.

Speaker 2: 10:59

So in order to get that control back in that need for something, you have to take things that are important away from them, and that's how I work it in my house. My boys love gaming. They love gaming, but when they come home and they don't see the Xbox controllers there, they're going to be a problem. What's the problem? Or when they come home and the remote controls and the TVs are gone, you know there's a problem.

Speaker 1: 11:22

We'd never gone over it before. That's it. Like I always said I have. I'm like that. I'm very similar to you, dan, my wife and I, paul opposites. Yeah, one of the things that I've added, and it's like kind of a security thing towards the children, because they've all got the age limits into it my mesh, my wireless mesh, in the house. Every kid has their own profile and all their devices are in their profile, so it knows that the 15 year olds are 15 year old, it knows the 10 year olds are 10 year old, et cetera. Brilliant thing about it is, if they irritate me, I open up the app and go oh yeah, yeah, cool, cool. Bailey, no internet. Just her devices can't access the internet. No one else is. Everyone else is good. It's like. It's like having this powerful controller in my hand that at the drop of a switch, I can just kill the internet on it.

Speaker 2: 12:16

No, yeah, that's. That's I call that parenting. You can't go around and just talk all the time. Sometimes you have to show force. I look at it like the. I look at it like the police system. You know why do we have police? If you could just talk to everybody and fix situations by just talking to people, we wouldn't have police.

Speaker 3: 12:35

Right, right.

Speaker 2: 12:36

You know, it's like it doesn't make any sense how you, oh you should talk. We've talked, we've talked for days. We the amount of time that I talk is hours, hours and hours of times and it hasn't resolved anything. So what do I do to resolve that issue? Show force, not physical. I don't have to get physical. You know, maybe a flick in the air. I use the flick man. They hate the flick.

Speaker 3: 13:00

It's like if, if diplomacy works with governments, why do we have the biggest military in the world?

Speaker 2: 13:06

Facts, facts. So you have to show force. Sometimes you are, you're the dictator of your own home. Yes, you can be. You can be passive and you can be, you know, open minded and and forthwilling, but at the same time you got to, you got to show force like no, I'm cutting that shit out. Now you guys are running around the house and told you 10 times stop running down the stairs, somebody's going to fall through the railing Me. It really breaks. There you are.

Speaker 1: 13:32

I'm the, I'm the responsible one, like we use that as excuse when I shattered my ankle just before I met all you guys and then we got into tiktok and that that's what repositioned me into how I looked at streaming and content creation, but I fell down the stairs and destroyed my ankle, so I'm the reason that we go. You want to end up like me. You know you don't run through those stairs, you don't be like an idiot.

Speaker 2: 13:55

You see the picture of you on the wall, don't be like me. Don't be like me with the X on it.

Speaker 1: 14:00

One of my, one of my children got a like a stuff doll that year for Christmas or something and it's like she was at the top of it. She dropped in. It fell down the stairs. She's like look it's dad. Oh shit, I was like damn, that's nasty, thanks.

Speaker 3: 14:18

I've got metal. I've got metal plates in.

Speaker 1: 14:19

I've got metal plates and rods up my out of my leg now because of that. That was rough.

Speaker 2: 14:25

Yeah, that was rough. Yo, you were right over there, man. You look past it Like you look like you're deep in thought right now.

Speaker 3: 14:30

No, I'm trying not to.

Speaker 1: 14:32

He's in trouble.

Speaker 3: 14:33

Swallowed something the wrong way and, like it's, I'm trying not to choke to death.

Speaker 2: 14:37

Yeah, we're going to edit that, so all the things are on way out. We're all people using that against you.

Speaker 3: 14:47

That's, that's, that's cool. So I think your approach is the approach. I think a lot of people I haven't feeling it's generationally. We're both Gen X, right, and I feel like younger generations are a lot more gentle parenting.

Speaker 2: 15:09

I got my ass whooped. Man, Me too I got my ass whooped.

Speaker 3: 15:13

Me too Like it. For me it was like it was.

Speaker 1: 15:15

it was known you do, you don't even got a belt around to slap it just for that noise.

Speaker 3: 15:19

Or or or you don't get any or you don't get anything.

Speaker 2: 15:22

You know what I mean.

Speaker 3: 15:23

Like it was, a like we, and I think in a lot of cases we a lot of us raised ourselves too, more or less, I know I did.

Speaker 2: 15:29

I'm the oldest out of five and my parents were always working, so we had to do a lot of things. My sister and I had to do a lot of things around the house and just to keep you know our responsibilities, we were told we had to. These were our jobs in the house and you know my parents worked and our jobs to make sure the house was clean. You know this. We fixed this side. We do that. This person does that, and you know we stay with our brothers and our little brothers and sisters at the time because you know that's what our parents wanted. We didn't know any difference. We didn't know that was the right way or the wrong way. You know, we only knew what they wanted us to do. Nowadays, our kids question us why are we doing this? Because we're asking you to, but that doesn't seem right, like it's not about right and wrong. It's about maybe telling you what to do when you're doing it.

Speaker 3: 16:09

and the discussion Like I'm asking you to murder somebody.

Speaker 2: 16:11

You know, like you know, make any sense.

Speaker 3: 16:14

Yeah, yeah. So if your kids wanted to get into streaming, would you let them?

Speaker 2: 16:22

Yeah, I would, I would. It would be I would be sitting on the sideline and I would be doing all their work for you, like I do it for Chase, like I put Chase in front of the camera sometimes to let them do it. The problem is that we got a lot of sickles out there. Yeah, and if there was a way to have them stream, like on YouTube kids, where it's centered to a specific crowd, then that would be great. But right now there's nothing, you know, we can do, like he can't even have a talk anymore. We used to be able to.

Speaker 1: 16:48

Right, I told Wolfless before and past, but I had my son streaming for a while, probably a couple of years ago, but how it worked was he didn't end up doing the camp, I just ended up saying no to the camera I tossed it around.

Speaker 1: 17:01

We did sometimes we did it. I ended up landing with no to it, so it's just gameplay only, because this he's the streamers that make it without a camp. But I had to be online. So for him to go online I had to have the free time to mod whether it had it on my phone, Like I could be in the land room but I needed to have the app on my phone so I could watch you stream and mod. But then it was a highly sensitive and you can do it with Twitch. You drop that profanity filter to like the extreme on Twitch.

Speaker 2: 17:30

Yeah you can't even talk on there.

Speaker 1: 17:32

You pretty much can't talk and it's a and you can set a delay between that and the streamer, so I could set it so he couldn't really see the chat as it was coming through, but I could see the chat quickly before it and monitor it before you could get to it.

Speaker 2: 17:45

So I had about 200 words blocked from chasing. That took forever, dude, just coming up with like this. So I went out to YouTube and picked up, like you know, explicit words that can't be used, and it gave me a whole list and I just copied and paste it. But it took a while just to like get it right. And he did it a couple times and somebody came on there just starting to make it some like gestures or stuff like that. So I was like yo, we're done, we're done. Never did it again. Yeah, it was just. It's kind of creepy.

Speaker 1: 18:17

It is. It is All right. That's a keyboard You're looking at.

Speaker 2: 18:30

I sent them a new picture of myself.

Speaker 3: 18:32

Yeah, and I'm like what is that? What is that?

Speaker 2: 18:36

That's what a man looks like, baby. Well, I got you.

Speaker 3: 18:47

So the answer to my old question I I would let my boys stream if they wanted to. I think there are some unsavory parts about it, but I feel like the process of it has so many benefits. You know you get comfortable talking to people. You know being more extroverted, you know you learn to think on your feet. And then you learn a lot of technical skills graphic design, social media management, video editing, audio production. You know all that kind of stuff and all of those things. I know bearded is probably tired of hearing me say that, like all of those things can become jobs for them if they wanted to do them when they grew up. Like those will be your career and you'll make good money, a lot more money than most people do streaming, you know. So I don't really have a lot of problems. I agree with you. It's when they're younger under 16, at least keeping them away from like that shitty side of viewers on on social media platforms.

Speaker 1: 19:51

It's hard to get it's hard to control it is.

Speaker 2: 19:54

So I don't. I don't censor any of my kids from anything except for adult content, and the reason being is that I need them to understand that this is how the world is.

Speaker 1: 20:06

You do what the rest of us did and run behind the curtains at a blockbuster.

Speaker 2: 20:11

Yeah, like Exactly.

Speaker 3: 20:13

Yeah sneak that shit.

Speaker 2: 20:15

No, I was, I was good, good, you shut your mouth. I was standing right next to you. I saw everything you're like.

Speaker 3: 20:22

What do you think of this one?

Speaker 2: 20:23

We're about the same age. Are we on 41? I just turned 41.

Speaker 3: 20:26

You know five years older than you Are. You really Damn yeah.

Speaker 2: 20:31

I know.

Speaker 3: 20:31

I look, I look good.

Speaker 1: 20:33

And you, I hit on you. He's got a really good lot on the filter on top.

Speaker 2: 20:40

See, I don't even have to, I have nothing.

Speaker 3: 20:43

This is damn bad what I had on ever.

Speaker 2: 20:46

You never see me without a hat on. That's nothing.

Speaker 3: 20:48

Although I need to brush my locks, my my yeah.

Speaker 2: 20:52

Did you like tattoo it on the top of your head Because I was thinking of doing that? No, you know what?

Speaker 3: 20:55

though I have to keep it a short now because, like it's a lot thinner up here than on the side.

Speaker 1: 21:01

That's. That's why I've done that I have to constantly shave it. I've done it just because this is, this is getting thinner here, so I'm like stuff it, it's all gone now.

Speaker 2: 21:09

Like you know it's still dark Like yours, is like dark man, Like that. This is like. This is four days old. This is like there's nothing here.

Speaker 1: 21:17

This is two days, two days old. Yeah, so I'll repair it. It's super jealous man, super jealous. I miss those days.

Speaker 2: 21:23

I'm gonna, I'm gonna send you guys pictures of me when I was like in my teenage years. You're like, no way. I'm like, yeah, long, fabulous locks. Yeah, I like the curly hair.

Speaker 3: 21:32

That's 30 years. I can imagine a damn Daniel Dentures not staying in your mouth. Here's some new. Oh you space, I got you, I'll do that.

Speaker 2: 21:41

Let me, let me. You know what. You know what? Fuck me up, man, that stupid age filter that they had going on for a while. I use that age filter and I was like fuck dude, that's what I'm really going to look like.

Speaker 3: 21:53

And I, oh my God, the age filter.

Speaker 2: 21:56

I tested it out because I used it on my dad. I'm one of his young photos, yeah, just like he does right now.

Speaker 3: 22:02

Oh, really yeah it.

Speaker 2: 22:04

Yeah, I like this was like all like here and show like damn bro, like I got it. Like I was like oh no, I was like I hope Botox is like.

Speaker 1: 22:13

I need to like, oh like, lift formula.

Speaker 3: 22:16

Oh, dude, I just know that I have to stay married because I'd not get anyone else.

Speaker 2: 22:23

Listen, you got me, buddy. Okay, I'll be there for you. I appreciate that. No, so one of the things that my biggest concern, my biggest concern was when I was letting Chase, you know, do his thing, is that you know someone would say something and he would read it out loud, yeah, and that would just like trigger the whole spiral of like what's going down, and that was like one of my biggest concerns.

Speaker 2: 22:47

But for the meantime, like, I just let him get on there and a lot of my like, a lot of the people that I used to stream with I don't stream with anymore and they were more like guardians for like him and stuff like that Like you know, they would game with him as well and they would get on it. Hey, you know, you got to find the right people to do stuff with. Yeah, that's the other thing. And right now I let him, I let him play Fortnite and I let him do the battle royales, but he can't talk to people, he's not allowed to use the microphone, right, and unless he's gaming with, like his school buddies, and he's got a couple of squads, he's got a squad. Yeah, he's squads together, he's got a squad. He's got three or four people he gains with and I specifically know them cause I do um, I do fall baseball and stuff like that. So I have my little league team and a lot of the kids are on the same team and stuff like that. So that's, that's how I know that he's safe. But besides that, he's not allowed to chat with people on on Halo. He's not allowed to chat with people on eight packs he's not allowed to. By the way, yo, chase, he's going to be an eight packs predator. He's that good.

Speaker 2: 23:48

I'm like, oh, I wish I was like. Yeah, I'm like yo, carry me, carry me. Like you know what it is. It's a young blood man, those fast reflexes, yeah, but I don't know. I had two boys, so it's. I think it's different for me than it is for parents with girls. Yeah, and I'm not trying to be biased about the whole girl thing, but I feel a sense of more protection that a female needs than a, than a male does, and I had a daughter. I would like my daughter to be just as tough as the boys, but that's not going to happen. When they're kids They'll build into that toughness, like when they're little, like they're young. Chase, his age, chase is like you know we got into a car accident on Wednesday. Somebody drove into us, yeah, and you know he freaked out and he's still freaked out and I'm, like you know, imagine a female in the car, a little baby, a little girl, like I'd be freaked out, you know.

Speaker 3: 24:39

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 24:39

And again thank you for every mom.

Speaker 1: 24:41

Yeah, I do remember seeing that on Twitter. Yeah, what the car accident.

Speaker 2: 24:46

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1: 24:47

You said that on Twitter. We don't call it we don't call it X here, by the way. It's Twitter, it's still Twitter, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3: 24:54

I remember seeing the car accident when I drove into you. Oh shit, you know, listen, it's insurance is no covering it.

Speaker 2: 25:03

I don't have a lot of things and I work really hard for the things that I do have. And you know, when something like that happens I'm like shit dude like that worked hard for this, I'm still paying for this, I get it insurance and this and that. But you know responsibilities in life I can't have, not, cannot have a car. I gotta get a rental and I gotta deal with this and I gotta do that and I have to.

Speaker 1: 25:20

Most nice, most nice all about that the D didn't pay for his car.

Speaker 3: 25:25

Oh shit. No, the fucking deer didn't Dude, you didn't have comprehensive. I did, I got, I got it. It got taken care of. Eventually, they almost totaled the car and then they decided to cut me a break and not do that.

Speaker 2: 25:39

So yeah, dude, like trying to get a car now with the way things are here in the States.

Speaker 1: 25:46

It's hard, man. I just had to buy a car, like three months, two months ago, and every car I wanted to buy because I've had a company car for the last 10 years, so it's when I changed jobs they said, hey, we'll give you money, you buy your own car, but we'll cover all the costs. You just got to buy your car and I said, cool, that's sweet, I can drive what I want for once, everywhere I went to go find a car. You're looking at six months a year to get here. Like we're just behind on manufacturing and I'm like I don't want to wait that long.

Speaker 2: 26:18

That's right, you live in a thoroughbred country. I forgot.

Speaker 1: 26:21

Yeah, yeah, I know, yeah, it's bullshit.

Speaker 2: 26:25

Australia. Do you live, by the way, like Brisbane?

Speaker 1: 26:28

We're about Brisbane, I have no idea. I guess it's East Coast, right on the beach, gold Coast, so it's a touristy town, but it's a one of, probably, say, the third biggest city in Australia, but it's the capital of my state. But that type of you know I'm not. You got room for us? Yeah, plenty room. We're in Australia.

Speaker 2: 26:52

Dude, we're going to do 90 days there, bro, 90 days. We're going to stream for 90 days.

Speaker 1: 26:57

Yeah, okay, we're done. We're done, we'll find a shack. Let's do it. Let's do it.

Speaker 2: 27:02

Fucking. Find a shack stream for 90 days. How much money you think those guys made together?

Speaker 1: 27:07

You're going to have to split that right? No, no, no. I think what he was doing YouTube at the same time while doing that, by the way, like creating YouTube content to send to his editors, and his editors were making content and publishing it at the same time, like he was covering all bases on it. And then the other Twitch streamer that was there, he was doing a little stream on his own Twitch channel every so often, but I think I said to him I don't know the details, but I would assume he would at least give him the other stream of you know 50K, you know 10K or something, a day, pretty much, to be there, like he would have made close to 300,000 off that.

Speaker 3: 27:44

You said it was a sub for a minute.

Speaker 1: 27:47

Yeah, yeah 45 days, 24 hours a day, 60 minutes an hour. It was like 280,000.

Speaker 3: 27:58

Yeah, that's like 3.8 something million, but obviously I must admit my math wrong. It's about 280,000.

Speaker 1: 28:07

280,000 to 360,000. I think I worked it out Jesus Christ. That was Australian, so it would be closer to that 400,000 to 500,000 viewers, yeah.

Speaker 3: 28:22

Even if those were all tier one that's 1.5 million.

Speaker 1: 28:27

No, that's tier one dollar value. I'm talking like if it was just tier ones, not including sub, not including ad revenue, sponsorships, youtube money etc. I thought out of just tier ones. It would have been about 280,000 to 360,000 dollars.

Speaker 2: 28:47

Yeah, that's a lot, that was dollars dollars dollars.

Speaker 1: 28:51

But even if you gave your neighbor 50K, he kept 50K and gave the other Twitch 50K, that's still 200K in his pocket Plus his editors. I think he pays his editors about 50K a year because he's got three of them to do all his content. So he's paying his editors like he's covered his costs. He was giving away a PC a day too through that One full gaming PC as a raffle a day.

Speaker 3: 29:18

So when you continue to grow, Dan Daniel, are you going to hire us?

Speaker 2: 29:23

I thought I already hired you, Morph.

Speaker 3: 29:25

That's true, I'm working pro bono now, but that's okay.

Speaker 2: 29:29

You are working pro bono now, because you know how am I supposed to? You know, listen, man, you guys, I am, I'm the future, I'm the future of content, creating this. All right, I really am not.

Speaker 3: 29:41

It's all about your humility.

Speaker 2: 29:44

I can't even be arrogant. Right now, I'm trying to be arrogant. I can't.

Speaker 2: 29:49

I'm just laughing because I know I just you know I am I'm very proud of my ability to to grow the channel the way I did, and without the support from you Morph Blue, pasigains and you guys just like pushing my stuff, like do this, do that, change this? And just taking it took me a while to swallow my pride and be like I need help. There's nothing that I can't do. You know I've done it already, but how do I transition this stuff over to get better at it? And you know, taking that first.

Speaker 2: 30:27

First, the scariest step was starting a new TikTok account, because you have no idea where it's going to go. You have no idea All this work you put in. Am I just doing the same shit that I was doing in my previous channel and it's not going to change? I have not changed my content style. I found my formula, I found my gimmick and it works and it can be transitioned to anything. So I started using that formula and I transitioned it to Cyberpunk. I transitioned, I did a cyber. I actually did a Starfield video. They got 16,000 views, yes, yeah, and I took it down because you know it only got 16,000 views. That's my ignorance, by the way, because I'm like you know, remember, when I reached out to you, I was like, bro, I'm not, I'm not accepting 10,000 views.

Speaker 1: 31:11

Well, take down all of them.

Speaker 3: 31:13

I think that's what I was like. Who the fuck are you?

Speaker 1: 31:15

Yeah, more just just note to self. Go take down all the dad dad mode podcast videos off TikTok. Okay, we are not to the standard. No, we're not.

Speaker 2: 31:26

But I sound I sound really arrogant when I say this, but I do have a standard because I work so hard to get there. I don't see a video doing 60,000 views, 50, 60, 70,000 views. I get concerned because I'm like what did I do wrong on this video? That I did on this video and what did I change? So I do go back and a lot of the videos that I got the most views have my, my goofy intro and my ending. So those videos are you know, they might not see the ending, but that was the formula I was using that successful. So I made some tweaks and change it and it's not as successful. So I just, like, I get concerned about, do you know, I deserve to be where I'm at because I worked hard to get there, not because you're handing it to me.

Speaker 2: 32:13

So you know how some people are just gifted and just get it. And I was like, oh, you know, I just I made a video. Yeah, 100 million views. I'm going viral. You know, I got a hundred thousand followers my first day. That's great. It took me three years to get 20, 20,000 followers. Yeah, but I'm going to brag a little bit, but it took me 60 days to get 20,000 followers On a new account.

Speaker 3: 32:40

On a new account, you know and you didn't even have to show skin to do it. In fact, I think your success came because you're not showing yourself at all.

Speaker 2: 32:48

You know that's what it is. I should do some work videos you channel. We're going to need to talk.

Speaker 3: 32:54

We're going to need to talk about this.

Speaker 2: 32:56

Hey, listen, I learned this work by watching all these strippers that I used to work with.

Speaker 1: 33:00

I was going to say opening to top on a new account.

Speaker 3: 33:03

These images in my head Dan.

Speaker 2: 33:05

Oh God.

Speaker 3: 33:08

Yes.

Speaker 2: 33:10

Yes, I don't know.

Speaker 3: 33:16

Your eyes on that? No, no.

Speaker 1: 33:17

I don't. I don't go far as like just broke my cards out instead.

Speaker 2: 33:22

Back the card on the table, just back it on the table.

Speaker 3: 33:27

Take pay way. It's been awesome having you on here. Thank you, sir.

Speaker 2: 33:31

We didn't really talk about much.

Speaker 3: 33:32

We just. You know we talked about a lot for two hours, so it was.

Speaker 2: 33:36

It's been two hours.

Speaker 3: 33:37

What's an hour?

Speaker 2: 33:38

and a half. Holy shit, you know how long was that on here for.

Speaker 3: 33:41

That's Sam. I'll tell you.

Speaker 2: 33:43

Oh, I'm going to wait a couple more minutes. All right, guys, it was a pleasure. Thank you so much.

Speaker 1: 33:50

Get your back on again for sure, you know.

Speaker 2: 33:53

If you guys need me to take over for more, just let me know, okay. Sounds great, you got to ask more to let me know. All right, I will.

Speaker 3: 34:02

All right, guys. I catch you later. Man. Hey, thanks for you know tuning into the podcast today. If you like it, be sure to share it, leave comments and we'll catch you next time on the beatoftheuckingownloadingde.